cspwal Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Judging by current travel times, going from Wheeler to the Galleria would probably take about 25 minutes, but you're right once you add in taking the train there from downtown plus waiting for the connection, it could easily be 45 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Lol cut and cover has and is being used in cities much more important than Houston. Westheimer is not champs elysees calm down.Which "important" cities are currently doing cut and cover? There's a reason London hasn't done cut and cover for over 100 years. It's very disruptive. Deep tunnels are a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 A quick web search turned this up http://publictransport.about.com/od/Glossary/a/The-Two-Methods-Of-Subway-Construction.htm Because of the negative community sentiment that often accompanies "cut and cover" construction, almost all new subway construction is done using the "deep bore" method. One exception was Vancouver B.C.'s recently opened Canada Line, and proves to be an excellent example of problems caused by the disruptive nature of the "cut and cover" method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Vik Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Which "important" cities are currently doing cut and cover? There's a reason London hasn't done cut and cover for over 100 years. It's very disruptive. Deep tunnels are a better choice.Vancouver did it recently. Auckland New Zealand also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Vancouver did it recently. Auckland New Zealand also I don't think important means what you think it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Vancouver did it recently. Auckland New Zealand alsoAuckland built 3.4km of rail, with about a third cut and cover, the rest bored. That's not much rail. Vancouvers mayor promised no more cut and cover, do I'm guessing it was not a popular construction method there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Vik Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Auckland built 3.4km of rail, with about a third cut and cover, the rest bored. That's not much rail. Vancouvers mayor promised no more cut and cover, do I'm guessing it was not a popular construction method there.Qatar's metro rail projects are all using cut and cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Yeah Qatar is also holding thousands of migrant workers hostage to build their rail and makeshift city so idk if I'd use them as proof that it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Qatar's metro rail projects are all using cut and coverNo, they aren't. The Lusail project will be cut and cover, the rest will be bored tunnels according to the project website http://www.qr.com.qa/English/Projects/Pages/Tunnelling.aspxLusail is not a populated area, so cut and cover isn't disruptive. Here's a story about one of the 21 boring machines being damaged by tunnel flooding http://dohanews.co/doha-metro-boring-machine-damaged-in-unexpected-tunnel-flood/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I know they did cut and cover in DC and people didn't like it. But I don't think that should stop anyone from constructing a subway if the only viable method is cut and cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Vik Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 No, they aren't. The Lusail project will be cut and cover, the rest will be bored tunnels according to the project website http://www.qr.com.qa/English/Projects/Pages/Tunnelling.aspxLusail is not a populated area, so cut and cover isn't disruptive. Here's a story about one of the 21 boring machines being damaged by tunnel flooding http://dohanews.co/doha-metro-boring-machine-damaged-in-unexpected-tunnel-flood/Delhi, Jaipur, Bangalore. I can keep going. It may be disruptive but I would rather have a rail line built with cut and cover then nothing at all. Also boring is prohibitively more expensive.Regardless you're against rail so it's just another excuse from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Delhi, Jaipur, Bangalore. I can keep going. It may be disruptive but I would rather have a rail line built with cut and cover then nothing at all. Also boring is prohibitively more expensive.Regardless you're against rail so it's just another excuse from you.Delhi appears to be using 19 TBM's for tunneling, and cut and cover for stations.I am not against rail per se, just against rail done stupidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Vik Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Delhi appears to be using 19 TBM's for tunneling, and cut and cover for stations.I am not against rail per se, just against rail done stupidly.I think it's more about economics than stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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