s3mh Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 http://swamplot.com/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-heights-post-office/2014-09-18/ I have seen some old folks at this location using the post office boxes. I assume that they are walking over from the nearby senior apartments. It would be an inconvenience for them. But that is the only reason I could think of to advocate for keeping it. It is the worst post office in the world and a blight on Heights Blvd. And it would be a great redevelopment opportunity with the new little retail strip on the northwest side of the intersection and the available old gas station across Yale St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heightsite Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The alternative PO has many disadvantages in its current state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 The alternative PO has many disadvantages in its current state. I would have to assume that they intend to upgrade the 18th St. facility in Shady Acres if they intend to consolidate retail services from the Yale St. location. They will make good money selling the property on Yale St. and can make upgrades to 18th and still have money in the bank afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpledevil Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hopefully they'd also dole a little of that fundage towards the Anson Jones station on Cavalcade. Very small station that serves Monte Beach, The Heights, Norhill, etc. It, too, needs some upgraded facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 So, there was a meeting yesterday with the rep from the USPS and community members. The 19th st. post office has excess space and is currently underutilized. It sounds like they would build out retail space there if they close Yale St. USPS said they will make the consolidation unless it can be shown that the move would not save money or would be more costly than the status quo. It does not sound like the USPS is going to be at all receptive to complaints about convenience due to their dire economic situation. Given that the sale of the property would probably generate about 10x the funds needed to build out a retail counter and PO boxes at the 19th street center, it sounds like this is probably a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 http://swamplot.com/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-heights-post-office/2014-09-18/ I have seen some old folks at this location using the post office boxes. I assume that they are walking over from the nearby senior apartments. It would be an inconvenience for them. But that is the only reason I could think of to advocate for keeping it. It is the worst post office in the world and a blight on Heights Blvd. And it would be a great redevelopment opportunity with the new little retail strip on the northwest side of the intersection and the available old gas station across Yale St. Really, tear it down and put in retail space? This is in the heart of residential properties. You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Really, tear it down and put in retail space? This is in the heart of residential properties. You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties. Walmart is >150k s.f. under roof. The entire USPS property is less than 50k s.f. All four corners of Yale & 11th are non-residential, as are most of 11th from Durham to Studewood and much of Yale from I-10 to 610. This is a more appropriate site for retail than it would be for residential. I'm not sure I'd want to buy a single family house on that corner. It's not zoned either way, so whoever buys it can decide what to do with it, but I'd guess that "highest-and-best use" (as economists say) would be either multi-family or some sort of retail or commercial use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Really, tear it down and put in retail space? This is in the heart of residential properties. You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties. The issue with Walmart wasn't whether it was retail or not. That is such a grotesque oversimplification of that debate that it is pretty much impossible to respond to the attempted argument. Retail at that spot would be ideal. As previously noted, this is at one of the busiest intersections in the Heights. Across 11th st. is the strip center with Lola and an additional 3,000 sq ft of retail is currently under construction on the NW corner of Heights and 11th. On the other side of Yale St. is a gas station (closed and on the market) and a dry cleaner. There is a chiro office on the SE corner of Heights and 11th with Boulevard Coffee a few doors down on Heights (at least for the next few days). That intersection is busy both with vehicles and pedestrian traffic and is pretty much the mid point of the Heights, meaning that it is close to a lot of residents. A casual restaurant could do a good business from breakfast to dinner at that location, especially considering that there will be an additional 700 new units of apartments a few blocks down the street. What we do not need is another Shady Acres-esque town home cluster or a Fisherville mid-rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Retail at that spot would be ideal. As previously noted, this is at one of the busiest intersections in the Heights. Across 11th st. is the strip center with Lola and an additional 3,000 sq ft of retail is currently under construction on the NW corner of Heights and 11th. On the other side of Yale St. is a gas station (closed and on the market) and a dry cleaner. There is a chiro office on the SE corner of Heights and 11th with Boulevard Coffee a few doors down on Heights (at least for the next few days). That intersection is busy both with vehicles and pedestrian traffic and is pretty much the mid point of the Heights, meaning that it is close to a lot of residents. A casual restaurant could do a good business from breakfast to dinner at that location, especially considering that there will be an additional 700 new units of apartments a few blocks down the street. What we do not need is another Shady Acres-esque town home cluster or a Fisherville mid-rise. As you stated, "this is one of the busiest intersections in The Heights" which is exactly why I am opposed to more retail. They already took away 1 lane in each direction on Heights Blvd. for bicyclists that refuse to obey traffic laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 As you stated, "this is one of the busiest intersections in The Heights" which is exactly why I am opposed to more retail. They already took away 1 lane in each direction on Heights Blvd. for bicyclists that refuse to obey traffic laws. So, you are concerned about traffic impacts. Fair enough. But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 So, you are concerned about traffic impacts. Fair enough. But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart? Supporting it 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 So, you are concerned about traffic impacts. Fair enough. But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart?Everyone? Overstate much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Supporting it 100%. Never mind. I did not expect you to get the irony that you are against retail in one place due to potential traffic impact but are 100% for it in another place with no regard for traffic impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullMan008 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Another retail spot would be better than those ugly condo/townhomes that are going up on Yale. This intersection hasnt always been this busy but it has always been a !!!!! to cross. Ive seen many accidents and near accidents here. Unfortunatly, with the recent growth in HH, Im afraid most intersections off Yale will be just as bad. We have a lot of folks that cut thru our neighborhood to get to 610. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Mayhaps Yale can get a turn signal onto 11th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Never mind. I did not expect you to get the irony that you are against retail in one place due to potential traffic impact but are 100% for it in another place with no regard for traffic impact.The only thing the Walmart site and the Post Office site have in common is proximity. Otherwise it is apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 The only thing the Walmart site and the Post Office site have in common is proximity. Otherwise it is apples and oranges. Exactly. That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other. Thanks for driving my point home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Exactly. That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other. Thanks for driving my point home. WalMart was built where there was NO, and I mean absolutely NO residential or traffic impact. It was a frigging ABANDONED business that had been there for years and traffic was never an issue until the bicycle lane was put in on Heights Blvd. that supposedly had a traffic impact study completed which stated there would be no impact. Many traffic IMPROVEMENTS were made due to WalMart. One major improvement is that there is now an exit to Yale and Heights from I10 East. There is no need to go all the way to Studewood. Sorry for the caps and bolding, but you seem to have issues with comprehending what people say if you are not in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJxvi Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 This parcel is already commercial and Im sure it will remain commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Exactly. That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other. Thanks for driving my point home. I didn't see where Heightsplus20 did that. Must have missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry, Heights20, the Walmart was built there because of the exit from I10, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry, Heights20, the Walmart was built there because of the exit from I10, not the other way around. The exit did not exist prior to WalMart being built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 HAHA! Everything that now exists that did not exist before the Walmart was built is caused by the Walmart being built. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The exit was built as a result of the gvt wanting "shovel-ready" projects to help the economy. If the exit had not been built, neither would the Walmart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights20plusyears Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 HAHA! Everything that now exists that did not exist before the Walmart was built is caused by the Walmart being built. Who knew? Pretty much so, much like the changes to the feeder road down by Target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGillicuty Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I heard the USPS recently hired Colliers to appraise this tract and a few others for disposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 U.S.P.S should sell this property and maximaize every dollar they can for it. Being there is no zoning at all in Houston, the buyer can put up any type of building they want, residential or commercial, even an Ashby highrise if they so choose (being this site is not near Southampton, or Broadacres, snark snark!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Looking more likely that this will be sold: http://swamplot.com/usps-now-says-it-will-close-and-sell-the-heights-post-office/2015-01-05/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looking more likely that this will be sold: http://swamplot.com/usps-now-says-it-will-close-and-sell-the-heights-post-office/2015-01-05/ I see someone mentioned in the comments that the Anson Jones post office on Cavalcade is also scheduled for closure. I was just there last week and asked the window clerk about it after noticing a new commercial real estate sign had been put up. She said they were going to be "moving", but hadn't been told where. If that translates to "consolidating operations with an existing facility", then postal services are really going to suck if the closest remaining post office in the area is the facility on 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The post office on 18th is pretty close to the geographical center of the 77008 zip code. If you live pretty much anywhere in the Heights and have your mail held, you'll need to go to W 18th to pick it up. There are over 50 places to buy stamps and 44 collection boxes within 5 miles of the center of 77008. You can buy stamps or print postage online and arrange for package pick-up at your house. There are plenty of ways for Heights residents to interact with the United States Postal Service that don't require USPS to sit on $2.5M worth of valuable, underutilized land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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