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That's not "demographic," that's planning.  Cocorobert was talking about the demographics of Dallas suburbs.

 

It includes purchasing profile, though, and using the consolidated statistical areas for the two, the economic census of 2007 reports shopping to the tune of almost $71 billion on retailer payroll of $6.15 billion in Houston-Baytown-Huntsville and of almost $90 billion on retailer payroll of $7.87 billion in Dallas-Fort Worth.  Annual retail sales is a pretty effective proxy for spending power, and for income demographics.  Other numbers (68 vs. 84 art dealers;  459 v. 529 jewelry, luggage and leather goods stores) given two metros sized within 10% of each other on overall population and median household income, if I'm not mistaken, support the idea of a larger upper income bracket in North Texas, notwithstanding F500 home offices.

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It includes purchasing profile, though, and using the consolidated statistical areas for the two, the economic census of 2007 reports shopping to the tune of almost $71 billion on retailer payroll of $6.15 billion in Houston-Baytown-Huntsville and of almost $90 billion on retailer payroll of $7.87 billion in Dallas-Fort Worth. Annual retail sales is a pretty effective proxy for spending power, and for income demographics. Other numbers (68 vs. 84 art dealers; 459 v. 529 jewelry, luggage and leather goods stores) given two metros sized within 10% of each other on overall population and median household income, if I'm not mistaken, support the idea of a larger upper income bracket in North Texas, notwithstanding F500 home offices.

No, this just means DFW has a larger trade market. The Houston area has the higher per capita income.

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It includes purchasing profile, though, and using the consolidated statistical areas for the two, the economic census of 2007 reports shopping to the tune of almost $71 billion on retailer payroll of $6.15 billion in Houston-Baytown-Huntsville and of almost $90 billion on retailer payroll of $7.87 billion in Dallas-Fort Worth.  Annual retail sales is a pretty effective proxy for spending power, and for income demographics.  Other numbers (68 vs. 84 art dealers;  459 v. 529 jewelry, luggage and leather goods stores) given two metros sized within 10% of each other on overall population and median household income, if I'm not mistaken, support the idea of a larger upper income bracket in North Texas, notwithstanding F500 home offices.

 

Not to be rude, but total numbers mean diddly squat. Averages are what's important. Austin probably has much smaller total retailer payroll than the Houston Metro, but can hold its own when it comes to neighborhoods with attractive "demographics."

 

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It goes together though because all of that planning keeps certain demographics out. Look at Prosper and their residential lot requirements. there is a lot of wealth concentretated in that far north Dallas county/Collin county area.

 

They're vaguely related, but as you said, Houston has the higher per capita income.  So if we want to talk about planning, fine. But if we're talking about demographics, my question stands... what "demographic" do these Dallas neighborhoods have that Houston doesn't?

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DFW suburbs are pretty well done. In Houston, you have nice ones like The Woodlands, but then the hodge podge nature of unincorporated Spring is just south of the town center. Katy is nice, but even the nicer parts in South Katy, outside of th mastr plannd communities are all random neighborhoods without much planning between them. And Houston has nice suburbs all around it. From downtown Dallas between the tollway and 75 for the next forty miles is nice suburb after nice suburb, for the most part, especially north of 635. Go from Richardson to Plano, to Allen, to McKinney. Then moving west you get to Frisco. North of Frisco there is Prosper. South you are back into Plano. These are like giant Sugar Lands or Cinco Ranches are next to each other. And there are a bunch of smaller suburbs like Murphy and Fairview around there. All of them have better planning than most Houston suburbs. Only sugar land, missour city, and other suburbs that are their own city come close.

Where are the less desired areas?

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The less desirable suburbs in DFW are generally south of 30. Areas like cedar hill, desoto, duncanville, grand prairie. East of Dallas also like Garland and Mesquite. The north side of DFW can be a huge bubble for the people that live there because you never have to leave it.

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It includes purchasing profile, though, and using the consolidated statistical areas for the two, the economic census of 2007 reports shopping to the tune of almost $71 billion on retailer payroll of $6.15 billion in Houston-Baytown-Huntsville and of almost $90 billion on retailer payroll of $7.87 billion in Dallas-Fort Worth.  Annual retail sales is a pretty effective proxy for spending power, and for income demographics.  Other numbers (68 vs. 84 art dealers;  459 v. 529 jewelry, luggage and leather goods stores) given two metros sized within 10% of each other on overall population and median household income, if I'm not mistaken, support the idea of a larger upper income bracket in North Texas, notwithstanding F500 home offices.

Isn't 2007, like, so 7 years ago?

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