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Post Office Site Mixed-Use Redevelopment

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How does the city withdrawing on bidding on the site keep their options open in bidding on the site? Doesn't withdrawing from bidding preclude bidding on the site? 

 

It doesn't and the article didn't say that.  The City bid on the site in order to keep its options open.

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When are they expecting to merge the jails?

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When are they expecting to merge the jails?

 

The city jail will be eliminated when the county completes the jointly-funded Processing Center.  In November, when we voters approved the new processing center, it was said that the new center would be open in 3 years, so roughly November 2016.

 

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The city jail will be eliminated when the county completes the jointly-funded Processing Center.  In November, when we voters approved the new processing center, it was said that the new center would be open in 3 years, so roughly November 2016.

 

 

Oh ok, so this sounds like a new structure / facility needs to be built. Do we have a location on that new center?

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Oh ok, so this sounds like a new structure / facility needs to be built. Do we have a location on that new center?

 

N. San Jacinto and Baker St., I believe.

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Downtown Post Office Building Likely To Become Mixed-Use Development

By: Andrew Schneider, May 15th, 2014 06:00 AM The old Post Office at 401 Franklin Street occupies 16 acres of prime real estate near Buffalo Bayou. The land is now likely to be turned into a mixed-use development -- combining high-rise office and residential buildings with retail space.

“The Post Office site is a gem,” Ralph Bivins, editor of Realty News Report, says. “It’s a jewel. It’s waiting to happen. It’s going to be the cornerstone of what’s going to make Buffalo Bayou a great place.”

Bivins says that any redevelopment would almost certainly have some tie-in to the wider renovation of the waterfront by the Buffalo Bayou Partnership.

 

http://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/news/downtown-post-office-building-likely-to-become-mixeduse-development/

 

 

 

 

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Look close you can see it just above the bottom of the page

On the second page of BBP Masterplan "eastern sector" is the map with the South Canal clearly labeled. I thought this was common knowledge? Hence why its called the North Canal and not just "the canal" ...unless I mistakenly read your post incorrectly?

1 observation and 1 idea.

Observation: Rendering shows what appears to be the elimination of Franklin St bridge over Buffalo Bayou by rerouting Washinton Ave over some of the Post Office site, then through the middle of North Canal Island to an eventual connection to Runnels/Navigation. Considering the revitalization efforts on both Washington Ave & Navigation Blvd, I'd love if this were to happen and they be connected.

Idea: Since land next to County Jail on Alcatraz Island would be a hard sell to any developer, how about HPD build it's new headquarters and support buildings there. They'd have quick access to 10, 45, and 59 and be next to Criminal Courts as well. And maybe HPD's presence on Alcatraz Island would make it somehow ...less seedy.

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That's a decent idea.  Since that land is already sullied by the jails being there, why not attempt to at least make it somewhat better by adding HPD?  Plus, like you mentioned there is decent access to area freeways from that location.

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I know this rendering is from 2004, so I'd assume some of the ideas might have changed seeing how they didn't incorporate the stage by Eleanor Tinsley. 

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Well, sounds like Midway and Lionstone were selected to develop the site. At least 1 hotel, office buildings, residential buildings, and some retail. 

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You didn't hear it from me and deal isn't finalized, but the City has chosen Midway and Lionstone over the other groups. Details are being ironed out and some of the other groups might be included in parts of the overall development. Similar to how the Sears/Fiesta site is being handled in Midtown. 

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Right. Just like how Sears/Fiesta site is being handled.

Refresh my memory about that, if you would.

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Right. Just like how Sears/Fiesta site is being handled.

Refresh my memory about that, if you would.

Lol, at first I was super excited but then I read this part and was bummed.. Fortunately it's midway apparently behind this deal, who has a track record of mixed use developments. Look forward to hearing more!

Edit: I wonder if they'll push for a HSR or commuter rail terminal here. IMO it would be ill advised to develop both the post office site and the hardy yards site without leaving anywhere for a station/terminal.

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dang, i cant edit my post. i just noticed one of the founding partners of the Lionstone Group is a Chairman for the Houston Parks Board. this could be excellent news in getting some real/cohesive bayou connectivity with this site.

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first of all.. WELCOME BACK largeTEXAS!  been keeping up with you upon the HBJ.  however, do you have any insight upon the proposed hotels (ritz carlton - w hotel - etc..)  no one, can seem to present anything thus far that is a bit concrete.  everything to date, seem speculative.  

 

any updated info, shall be appreciated. 

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You didn't hear it from me and deal isn't finalized, but the City has chosen Midway and Lionstone over the other groups. Details are being ironed out and some of the other groups might be included in parts of the overall development. Similar to how the Sears/Fiesta site is being handled in Midtown. 

 

I don't understand how the city can award the property to anyone since I thought it belongs to the usps, Wouldn't they be the ones to award the property to someone?

I hope they do away with Franklin and reroute Washington to allow the bayou to come into play

with this property. Although it is on the opposite side of the bayou from sesq. park, they could always add more pedestrian bridges. What this would do is open up the hike and bike trails farther east, and create a frontlawn for that development. The views from this property are the best. Sorry about the pigeons.

 

 

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I don't understand how the city can award the property to anyone since I thought it belongs to the usps, Wouldn't they be the ones to award the property to someone?

I hope they do away with Franklin and reroute Washington to allow the bayou to come into play

with this property. Although it is on the opposite side of the bayou from sesq. park, they could always add more pedestrian bridges. What this would do is open up the hike and bike trails farther east, and create a frontlawn for that development. The views from this property are the best. Sorry about the pigeons.

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Great points.. And I agree about ditching franklin ave and connecting Washington all the way through instead. Otherwise there isn't much bayou frontage that's not under Franklin.

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Any news on who bought the post office land? Who submitted bids? Has that been determined yet?

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When this Post Office closes, where will be the closest "full service, full hours" post office near downtown? I think tat it is terrific that this prime property is potentially subject to redevelopment but...... Where is the next best alternative for all the new downtown residents?

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There's one in the Customs House in the 700 block of San Jacinto, across from the former Texaco Building, another on Richmond west of Montrose and a third on Almeda just south of the Southwest Freeway.

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