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#1 s3mh

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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

http://www.houstonpr...en-night-fight/

I was only out at WLN very early along 19th. Everything looked good to me, except the big soundstage east of Rutland was too much. People did not even want to walk in front of it because it was so loud.

I know nothing about any of the organizers or the people complaining. But I really do not see anything other than someone with very limited experience with directing special events making some mistakes and maybe biting off a little more than he can chew. There have been may larger debacles at other special events in Houston (Beerfest at Discovery Green for one). And it is not like the guy who is the target of the article goes around Texas fleecing arts groups and making money hand over fist.

Anyone know anything about this?

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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM

http://www.houstonpr...en-night-fight/

I was only out at WLN very early along 19th. Everything looked good to me, except the big soundstage east of Rutland was too much. People did not even want to walk in front of it because it was so loud.

I know nothing about any of the organizers or the people complaining. But I really do not see anything other than someone with very limited experience with directing special events making some mistakes and maybe biting off a little more than he can chew. There have been may larger debacles at other special events in Houston (Beerfest at Discovery Green for one). And it is not like the guy who is the target of the article goes around Texas fleecing arts groups and making money hand over fist.

Anyone know anything about this?

Texas Beer Fest at Discovery Green went great, actually, a wonderful event by good people. Houston Beer Fest at Hermann Square and Tranquility Park was a disaster in 2011, but went fairly well this year.

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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM

I didnt even know there was a beer fest.... so... what went wrong with WLN?

So fellow HoustonArchitecture board members, sit back and watch Atlanta and Dallas get all these cool projects while Houston sits stagnant! Welcome to Houston, the 4th largest joke of a city in America. The city with no efficient transit options (i.e. rail), no amusement park, 600 sq miles of ghetto, low density, car-centric, unplanned neighborhoods, lack of progress, and etc...

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#4 s3mh

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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Texas Beer Fest at Discovery Green went great, actually, a wonderful event by good people. Houston Beer Fest at Hermann Square and Tranquility Park was a disaster in 2011, but went fairly well this year.


Right. I had them backwards. I meant the 2011 Beer Fest that left everyone waiting in line to get in.

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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I didnt even know there was a beer fest.... so... what went wrong with WLN?

Nothing. I didn't read anything unusual about injuries or crimes, just a few merchants felt they got ripped off for a c-note by some Cohen dude, chaulk it up to experience and use your brain next year. I believe there were more visitors than last year with the increase being mostly twenty-somethings. The crowds seemed friendly and white (clothes) and we hung with them until near midnite celebrating a coincident birthday. Up north you had more white linen suits while down south it was more white shirts and skirts. Next year I am going to push for a toga sector to fully de-link from New Orleans White Linen Night.

EDIT: Don't knock it, we could have had this instead:
http://www.nola.com/...11_may_hav.html
"As always, fashion watching was part of the attraction and the streets were well stocked with splendid sartorial polar bears and snow foxes. There is an almost Zen-like wardrobe conundrum among many WLN attendees. If one cannot achieve both white and linen in one’s ensemble, then which should it be? This tribulation gives rise the occasional pink linen jacket or white seersucker mash up....."

Edited by fwki, Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM.


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Posted Thursday, August 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

This year it seemed less like an open-house night for shops and retailers and more like a street fest. At least on 19th, which was the only part I saw this year.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM

I've got to say that article was missleading and wrong in many ways. They were quoting the boom boom room lady as if what she said was the gospel truth. The complaint that WLN is now to "spread out" is completely bogus, 5 years ago it included Kaboom Books on Beauchamp and nia moves on pecore which is even more spread out that now. (Kaboom wants to be part of WLN still but they won't send the shuttle that far). The author also uses the "austin-like" phrase as synonym for cool. It really bugs me to compare austin to the heights as a reason why the heights is cool. The heights is its own thing, and it is cool because of that. This brings me to my issue with Cohen... why the change of slogan from the "steamy, sultry, exotic etc." to "local blah blah blah" Obviously it's local, it is a neighborhood event supported by neighborhood businesses. The Heights is NOT Austin, please don't steal their silly slogans to try to turn our neighborhood into something it isn't. If i see a "keep the heights weird" sign anywhere i will be forced to rip it down and shred it.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I've got to say that article was missleading and wrong in many ways. They were quoting the boom boom room lady as if what she said was the gospel truth.

I'm not really sure which of her claims are in question. The main one seems to be that she paid $100 for placement on a map and was never added to it. Cohen doesn't seem to dispute this, and ended up refunding her money. So what's not true?

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Sounds like it's just more sensationalistic drivel.

So fellow HoustonArchitecture board members, sit back and watch Atlanta and Dallas get all these cool projects while Houston sits stagnant! Welcome to Houston, the 4th largest joke of a city in America. The city with no efficient transit options (i.e. rail), no amusement park, 600 sq miles of ghetto, low density, car-centric, unplanned neighborhoods, lack of progress, and etc...

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

formerly owned by mexican mafia, event getting more spread out than before. If your going to spew things like that you better have some facts backing it up.

BTW I take threats by machete pretty seriously... did anyone report her for this (as it seems she was not on her property), who does she think she is... Danny Trejo?

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM

who?

So fellow HoustonArchitecture board members, sit back and watch Atlanta and Dallas get all these cool projects while Houston sits stagnant! Welcome to Houston, the 4th largest joke of a city in America. The city with no efficient transit options (i.e. rail), no amusement park, 600 sq miles of ghetto, low density, car-centric, unplanned neighborhoods, lack of progress, and etc...

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 3:26 PM

formerly owned by mexican mafia, event getting more spread out than before. If your going to spew things like that you better have some facts backing it up.

BTW I take threats by machete pretty seriously... did anyone report her for this (as it seems she was not on her property), who does she think she is... Danny Trejo?

To be honest, I never really got to the part where Cohen was a bad guy. I read "neighborhood Heights b**ch takes machete and threatens beer drinkers, then steals property from under them." Then I read "neighborhood Heights b**ch with a wine bar wants to steal WLN". Most of the commenters seem to have read it the same way. Don't know who this broad is, since I never patronize her joint, but most assuredly I never will now. Frankly, I root for her demise. We have enough a-holes in the Heights trying to impose their will on everyone else already, we don't need another armed with a machete.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM

formerly owned by mexican mafia, event getting more spread out than before. If your going to spew things like that you better have some facts backing it up.

Well the mafia bit is about the former owner of her business, nothing to do with WLN or Cohen. More spread out, haven't they added White Oak in recent years, like the past year or two?

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 4:50 PM

After reading it again and hearing some talk in the neighborhood, all I get is the following:

1. A few businesses thought that for $100 they would get patrons shuttled from far more interesting and active venues to their distant spot on noisy Yale St. Owner of Boom Boom Room calls homeland security, the UN, and Buckaroo Banzai's strike team in to deal with an honest mistake that might be a plot to fleece small business owners out of a few hundred bucks.
2. Cup cake truck gets a bad spot and wants organizers to pay her babysitter.
3. An artist named Mitch Cohen is not very good at designing shuttle routes.
4. Owner of Hello-Lucky is an adult and understands that business owners are also responsible for promoting their White Linen Nights events beyond what they get for a whopping $100 (I do not think you can even get a tiny ad in the Leader for $100).
5. Some non-profit orgs cannot figure out how to structure the festival to compensate Mitch Cohen for bringing in artists for the arts market. (Non-profits can make a profit from a special event, they just cannot distribute that profit to members or officers)
6. Someone mixes up 501©3s and c(6)s and it is again worthy of a special prosecutor, InterPol and the international Criminal Court.
7. Current organizers and Mitch Cohen try to be responsive to the Houston Press, but get slammed anyway
8. Hack crime blotter guy at the Houston Press banks on White Linen Nights 2012 being an unmitigated disaster after organizers candindly admitted to the Leader that things did not go as they wished last year.
9. WLN 2012 was a big success and Houston Press crime blotter guy now looks like a cheap tabloid scandal monger

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Mark this date! s3mh and I wholeheartedly agree about something. As I stated earlier, the best way to punish a-hole business owners is through her wallet. I recommend taking a vacation from Boom Boom Room, whether permanent or temporary, in order to impress upon this woman that we appreciate Cohen's efforts, but not hers.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM

s3mh doesn't realize that John Nova Lomax is one of the best reporters in town. I would tend to believe most of what he says as being reasonably accurate.

Red, did you see the part where the machete incident took place after patrons of the bar would not quit blocking/parking in the driveway of the woman's home? Probably far more effective than trying to get an HPD officer to show up, which would take a week or more if they actually cared.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 7:45 PM

s3mh doesn't realize that John Nova Lomax is one of the best reporters in town. I would tend to believe most of what he says as being reasonably accurate.

Red, did you see the part where the machete incident took place after patrons of the bar would not quit blocking/parking in the driveway of the woman's home? Probably far more effective than trying to get an HPD officer to show up, which would take a week or more if they actually cared.


Oh! That changes everything! Here I've been thinking that a call to the police or even a tow truck would be appropriate, but really I should be busting out with my machete to solve my parking problems!

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Red, I've tried calling HPD about cars blocking driveways, sidewalks, etc. HPD doesn't care. They won't show up most of the time, and on the rare occasions they do, they get mad at whoever called them (I've had that conversation with a patrol officer a couple of times). You can tow a car that's blocking your driveway without calling HPD first, but then you have a pissed off drunk who is more than ready to trash your house and yard. Sometimes, you just have to make your point the old fashioned way.

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Posted Friday, August 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM

by committing aggravated assault with a deadly weapon? OK, I'm convinced. i guess the rocks in the grass doesn't cut it...so to speak.

Edited by RedScare, Friday, August 10, 2012 at 11:26 PM.


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Posted Saturday, August 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM

So Red, what do you think the woman should have done, given HPD"s lack of interest in those situations?

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Posted Saturday, August 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM

So Red, what do you think the woman should have done, given HPD"s lack of interest in those situations?


I am not going to get into a debate with someone who thinks brandishing a machete at people who block your driveway is a reasonable response. I stated my position...as if I needed to. You are on your own.

Do you also believe that this is the proper response to neighbors playing loud music?

http://gma.yahoo.com...topstories.html

Edited by RedScare, Saturday, August 11, 2012 at 10:20 AM.


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Posted Saturday, August 11, 2012 at 11:00 AM

...Sometimes, you just have to make your point the old fashioned way.

Yeah, the good ole days like the way our society handled racial integration in the late twentieth century. For that problem we tried nooses and burning crosses, but that doesn't work on Mexicans. The only thing that works on those people are machetes and santeria curses.

After she solved the Mexican parking problem with a machete, the Mexcian music and clientele still irked her. Now she's got a problem with a guy named Cohen. I think I see a pattern here.

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Posted Sunday, August 12, 2012 at 1:34 AM

you know whats funny.. the only reason I EVER thought about going to The Boom Boom room was because some people at WLN a few years ago told me it was a good place. I will make sure to NEVER go there now.

Ross... you think its a better idea to threaten someone with a machete than have their car towed... because your worried about what they might do to your yard/house. Pulling a machete on someone is a good way to get shot, especially since she wasn't on her property.

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Posted Sunday, August 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Machete? How primitive.

All good Heights residents know that a duel is the proper (and historic) method of solving disputes.

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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM

s3mh doesn't realize that John Nova Lomax is one of the best reporters in town. I would tend to believe most of what he says as being reasonably accurate.


Accuracy involves a lot more than correctly reporting what the lady who runs the Boom Boom Room said. Lomax makes a big stink about how much Cohen wanted to get paid and the fact that Cohen also wanted to make money off of his arts market. But, Lomax does not provide the proper context. First, 22k is not a lot of money compared to what professionals would charge. I have directed much smaller events on a voluntary basis. It was a ton of work to get a small event (500-1000 people) put together. Getting vendors, the City permitting and volunteers set up took @20 hours a week for @4-6 weeks. WLN is a huge and complicated event. I am sure that it was a 24/7 job the last few weeks leading up to it. Given that there are very few people who can ditch their day job to dedicate themselve to directing an event like WLN, it is only fair that the person hired get a premium just for actually being available to do it. Second, Cohen makes money doing his arts market once a month all year long. Why shouldn't he be able to do that during WLN? A 501©3 could have simply hired Cohen to bring his for profit arts market to WLN as part of the entertainment for the evening, no different than hiring the loud bands on 19th street. People only got squeemish when Cohen presented it in conjunction with him getting paid to direct the event. One organization got over-lawyered and balked at it instead of working with Cohen to structure it to be legal. But Lomax thinks all of this is the devil's work because he did not take the time to understand the issues. Instead, if someone said "this looks bad", he reported that instead of trying to actually understand if it actually was bad.

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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Make them pay.

So fellow HoustonArchitecture board members, sit back and watch Atlanta and Dallas get all these cool projects while Houston sits stagnant! Welcome to Houston, the 4th largest joke of a city in America. The city with no efficient transit options (i.e. rail), no amusement park, 600 sq miles of ghetto, low density, car-centric, unplanned neighborhoods, lack of progress, and etc...

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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The $22,500.00 figure quoted was for a group of people not just Mitch. That is just one of the many mistakes in the article.

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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Accuracy involves a lot more than correctly reporting what the lady who runs the Boom Boom Room said. Lomax makes a big stink about how much Cohen wanted to get paid and the fact that Cohen also wanted to make money off of his arts market. But, Lomax does not provide the proper context. First, 22k is not a lot of money compared to what professionals would charge. I have directed much smaller events on a voluntary basis. It was a ton of work to get a small event (500-1000 people) put together. Getting vendors, the City permitting and volunteers set up took @20 hours a week for @4-6 weeks. WLN is a huge and complicated event. I am sure that it was a 24/7 job the last few weeks leading up to it. Given that there are very few people who can ditch their day job to dedicate themselve to directing an event like WLN, it is only fair that the person hired get a premium just for actually being available to do it. Second, Cohen makes money doing his arts market once a month all year long. Why shouldn't he be able to do that during WLN? A 501©3 could have simply hired Cohen to bring his for profit arts market to WLN as part of the entertainment for the evening, no different than hiring the loud bands on 19th street. People only got squeemish when Cohen presented it in conjunction with him getting paid to direct the event. One organization got over-lawyered and balked at it instead of working with Cohen to structure it to be legal. But Lomax thinks all of this is the devil's work because he did not take the time to understand the issues. Instead, if someone said "this looks bad", he reported that instead of trying to actually understand if it actually was bad.


$27K is some pretty nice cheddar for nine weeks work. What is Cohen's day-job, anyway?

Edited by kylejack, Monday, August 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM.


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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mitch Cohen never made 27 k, end of story.

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Posted Monday, August 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Mitch Cohen never made 27 k, end of story.

I know, and HP didn't say he did. Rather, that's what he stood to make if his wishes had been granted (Him being paid what he requested, and WLN covering the electricity costs for Arts Market.)