[TonyCarroll]

For many years I have watched the house at 1212 Hyde Park (second block west of Montrose) hoping it would become available. If you are familiar with Montrose you would recognize the house, I'm certain, as it and it's sister house occupy the north side of the 1200 block of Hyde Park. They were built in the 30's apparently for sisters, have almost identical first floor plans, and very different facades - one Tutor revival, the other Georgian revival. Unfortunately, the house is in terrible disrepair and is badly over-priced for the neighborhood at about $700 thousand.

My fear is the house will be bought by developers and destroyed, which will be a great loss to the area. I'm wondering if any one knows more about the circumstances or current owner of the house. (Ms. DeMarco, the long time resident died in 2007, and the house has been placed on the market by someone apparently not a family member) I do know of offers in the $500K range that have been rejected.

[flipper]

The house was deeded to "Gulf States Management Company - 4615 Southwest Freeway Ste 600, 77027" in December 07.

The house was listed with a flat fee style realtor on 1/4/08 @ 775k.

It was withdrawn on 1/10/08.

Put back into active status on 1/15/08.

The listing expired 1/16/08.

Put back into active status 1/18/08.

Withdrawn on 1/28/08.

Activated on 2/25/08.

Price reduced to 695k on 2/25/08.

Withdrawn on 4/11/08.

flipper

[fortbendtomontrose]

Should actually be called "Tudor Revival".

Sorry about that.

Here are some pics to make up:








In good repair, it has to be worth over a million. Despite the crackhouse apartments right down the street.

[marmer]

fortbendtomontrose, on Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 @ 3:24pm, said:

Should actually be called "Tudor Revival".

Sorry about that.

Here are some pics to make up:








In good repair, it has to be worth over a million. Despite the crackhouse apartments right down the street.

Oh, _that_ house. I agree. That size and location with that kind of architectural interest seems appropriate at $700,000.

[flipper]

fortbendtomontrose, on Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 @ 3:24pm, said:

In good repair, it has to be worth over a million. Despite the crackhouse apartments right down the street.

Unfortunately, there aren't any comps that I can find that support that. With that big lot and the high price tag, I don't see this house being renovated.

flipper

edit: ok, I looked further back and *maybe* there are a few interesting comps on larger, historic places.

This post has been edited by flipper: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM

[fortbendtomontrose]

flipper, on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 @ 12:39pm, said:

Unfortunately, there aren't any comps that I can find that support that. With that big lot and the high price tag, I don't see this house being renovated.

flipper

edit: ok, I looked further back and *maybe* there are a few interesting comps on larger, historic places.

Thanks for the research. It would be a shame to lose that one, though based on your findings it looks probable.

[Vertigo58]

marmer, on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 @ 1:18pm, said:

Oh, _that_ house. I agree. That size and location with that kind of architectural interest seems appropriate at $700,000.

They just don't make me like that any more.

Check out :

http://www.amazon.com/Tudor-Style-Revival-...t/dp/0789307936

PS, there are many nabes in our city that still sport these beauties!

[dbigtex56]

Edit: Original topic located, has been merged. dbigtex56

There's an existing thread on this house, but I'm pressed for time - please let me know and I'll merge them.

The graceful brick and stucco Tudor house at the northeast corner of Hyde Park and Van Buren is now a heap of rubble.

R.I.P.

[musicman]

sad if this is the one i think it is. was this on the ne corner?

[gnu]

musicman, on Sunday, February 22nd, 2009 @ 9:16pm, said:

sad if this is the one i think it is. was this on the ne corner?

I think it has to be

[sevfiv]

The one with the half-timbering on the NE corner (1212 Hyde Park)?

[KinkaidAlum]

That is sad. This house has been on and off the market on HAR for years though. Always seemed overpriced though. I probably don't have to wonder to hard about what will replace her...

[kylejack]

KinkaidAlum, on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 @ 11:49am, said:

That is sad. This house has been on and off the market on HAR for years though. Always seemed overpriced though. I probably don't have to wonder to hard about what will replace her...

Heh, probably a Barnaby's, don't think they have saturated that neighborhood enough with their measly 4 locations.

[sidegate]

Yeah that was a nice house, I used to bike past it on the work every day when I lived on Van Buren. Pretty big lot - what was the asking price when it was on the market Kinkaid?

[KinkaidAlum]

sidegate, on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 @ 4:53pm, said:

Yeah that was a nice house, I used to bike past it on the work every day when I lived on Van Buren. Pretty big lot - what was the asking price when it was on the market Kinkaid?

I wanna say it was in the low 800s from what I remember but I could be off. The inside needed work but it was a doable house to fix up IF priced right...

The problem I've found inside the loop as that many of the lot prices are worth more than the houses that sit on them, especially in hoods where you can plop down townhomes on the larger lots. People interested in fixing up places are starting to get priced out of the equation.

My guestimate from what I saw on HAR was that house needed at least $150,000 to 200,000 of work. With an asking price of around $800,000, you'd be a sucker to jump into that mess.

[dbigtex56]

Yes, that is (was) the one.

A few days prior to demolition someone removed doors, hardware and some exterior brick. As of yesterday, it's a heap of rubble. Haven't been by today to check up on the cleanup progress.

I do not condone theft. If someone was to back up a truck and save a few tons of perfectly good brick that would just go in the landfill anyway, now would be the time. That would be wrong, wrong, wrong, of course.

[KinkaidAlum]

dbigtex56, on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 @ 8:19pm, said:

Yes, that is (was) the one.

A few days prior to demolition someone removed doors, hardware and some exterior brick. As of yesterday, it's a heap of rubble. Haven't been by today to check up on the cleanup progress.

I do not condone theft. If someone was to back up a truck and save a few tons of perfectly good brick that would just go in the landfill anyway, now would be the time. That would be wrong, wrong, wrong, of course.

I wonder how long the brick will be there...

I am starting work on an English Country fixer in 3 days and would love some old brick for a new paver to the front door to replace the cracked concrete and for a back brick patio... Hmmmm...

[rsb320]

Another beautiful, historic, Montrose property bites the dust...

[NenaE]

A while back, at the Clayton Geneaology Library, I ran across the book Key to the City of Houston (1908), that listed 14 Houston subdivisions, of course Hyde Park was featured. Described it as follows:

HYDE PARK

---oak trees (natural to area)
---large, 73 acres
---southwest part of city
---owned by Hyde Park Improvement Co.
---sandy, not muddy
---location high - 12' above Main St. at McGowen Ave.
---large ditch to carry water to Buffalo Bayou quickly

Thought I would share that, since the inner neighborhoods are changing so fast, these days.

Question: Does anyone know when this tudor house was built?

This post has been edited by NenaE: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM

[fortbendtomontrose]

Though I realized it was likely to happen, it was a shock to see this house
had vanished when I drove by there tonight.

That little section of Hyde Park is the worse off. Danger of losing it's character.

[TexasP]

Hmm... just found this thread.

I know the new owners of this property. They are Montrose residents and their plan is build 3 small modern houses on the lot. I haven't seen their architects plans, but I can guarantee they'll be really cool. Definitely not going to be cookie-cutter townhouses or faux-Italianate blech, and they're building 3 so as to keep the prices reasonable. Each one will be different from the others.

The old mansion had been open to the weather for years (decades?) and wasn't salvageable. Various good bits were collected by Architectural Salvage.

Cao, TexasP

[sevfiv]

TexasP, on Wednesday, April 15th, 2009 @ 1:58pm, said:

The old mansion had been open to the weather for years (decades?) and wasn't salvageable.

Oooh, don't go there, not on HAIF!

Sad no one was up to refurbishing it, but I'm glad to hear that the plans aren't the norm for rebuilds.

[rsb320]

Thanks, TexasP. I hope your assessment is correct. I would have even been more assured if you said that the owners were "Long-Time" Montrose residents.

After construction begins, this will be a great forum to share our opinions. mmm

[dbigtex56]

And now its twin (1206 Hyde Park) has a realtor's sign. I'm a bit more hopeful for this property, as it appears to have been well-maintained.