kylejack Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Knock out a wall or two and make it a park like the Bethel Church project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tierwestah Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Welcome back tierwestah, I feel the same way, but when you try to say that on HAIF, some people get uptight and say you don't know what you are talking about.thanks kid. some people still refuse to accept reality as it is in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 LOL! crunch that would be a great idea really it would if there was no space for that type of stuff, but this is Texas, there is plenty of land. I could see if this was Manhattan or some other small area and there was no way to grow enough with the land that was left. I think the movie/TV studio/museum/etc would be best. It will bring in lots of money, tourist will be attracted, and maybe Houston can get some talk shows taped their which will attract tourist to be on the shows. It would be great it is an attraction for music artist as well to record music, or shoot music videos. If it can't be a movie studio, I really don't know what it could be used for. Well how about a city with a city. Astrodome city? apartments, a hotel, businesses, etc all in the dome. I agree with you on this one, citykid. Land is abundant; if urban agribusiness is our aim, then we ought to seriously incentivize the utilization of vacant urban acreage as community gardens. I'd be for that. Crunch is asking for ROI figures, yet I cannot fathom that the crop yield from an Astrodome-based hydrophonics operation would be sufficient even to maintain the facility itself...unless of course we're talking about a certain sort of crop , but you know that's not gonna happen. At the same time, as I mentioned in your entertainment industry thread, the concept of using the Astrodome for studios is also pretty absurd. Some tiltwall buildings with up to 40-foot clearance heights would satisfy the same physical needs at minimal cost. Movie studios don't need sexy buildings, just expansive and cheap buildings. It's easy to forget this if you're reading tabloids or whatever it is you do to obtain your information about the entertainment industry, but that industry is a profit-motivated business. And business is about the profit margin. Never forget that. What I propose is a convention hotel (smaller than had been initially proposed) coupled with the world's largest medical mall and permanent medical exposition. Along the alignment of Holly Hall (if it continued west of Fannin) would be a sports-themed retail/entertainment strip, behind which would be a permanent array of carnival rides for the kiddoes; replacement parking would be at the old Astroworld site, with people-moving sidewalks providing a rapid connection back to the core of Reliant Park on game days or during the Rodeo. The concept would integrate Reliant Park into the Texas Medical Center, which continues to steadily creep south. Given the current financial environment, I cannot envision any use of the Astrodome being privately-financed, so some amount of public input would be necessary; yet that's not so objectionable in my mind for something that picks at low-hanging fruit as it is for something as pie-in-the-sky as a stand-alone grow house or stand-alone movie studios. ...plus, anything that benefits the quality of services rendered at the TMC benefits the whole of our regional population. "You might live longer" is always a stronger value proposition than "you'll be able to eat locally-grown Astro-Veggies" or that "movies that you don't participate in get filmed here, briefly, before all the hard work is sourced to NYC or LA". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Did anyone happen to see the Houston Press that came out last thursday talking about turning the dome into, AstroSafari? Brought to you by....wait for it....wait for it...Tilman Fertitta! shoulda guessed huh. http://www.houstonpr...gging-the-dome/ just have to wait and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
names Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 That was a april fool's joke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) That was a april fool's joke..Was it really? A safari sounds like a good idea though. I would still rather have it become a Movie Studio.If it doesn't become a Movie Studio it would be great if the state allowed gambling in the state only within the dome. If that were to happen, I guarantee you that Houston would be one of the top tourist destinations in Texas if not the nation. Edited April 7, 2010 by citykid09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 yeah its a joke, but a good one haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Knock out a wall or two and make it a park like the Bethel Church project. what is the Bethel Church project and how do they park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 what is the Bethel Church project and how do they park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Was it really? A safari sounds like a good idea though. I would still rather have it become a Movie Studio.If it doesn't become a Movie Studio it would be great if the state allowed gambling in the state only within the dome. If that were to happen, I guarantee you that Houston would be one of the top tourist destinations in Texas if not the nation.City, you've hit on the best idea so far, and - the most probably successful - IF you could get past the Baptists .... that's not gonna' happen yet. Man, we could have the beginnings of a place as significant as the Balineese Room, right there at the Dome! Now that's a plan old Roy would look down on with admiration!!I can't wait 'til the Baptists roll in on my post, with the, " Organized crime!!! Prostitution!!!( I am FOR legalized prostitution BTW ) The END TIMES!!!! Be Afraid!!! They'll all go to Vegas, and play, but we can't have it here! O.K.: I've got 2 select bottles of old vine red Zin, a John Wayne movie ( The Searchers ), and a beautiful woman at the fort, in preparation for the on-slaught of Armageddon!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 City, you've hit on the best idea so far, and - the most probably successful - IF you could get past the Baptists .... that's not gonna' happen yet. Man, we could have the beginnings of a place as significant as the Balineese Room, right there at the Dome! Now that's a plan old Roy would look down on with admiration!!I can't wait 'til the Baptists roll in on my post, with the, " Organized crime!!! Prostitution!!!( I am FOR legalized prostitution BTW ) The END TIMES!!!! Be Afraid!!! They'll all go to Vegas, and play, but we can't have it here! O.K.: I've got 2 select bottles of old vine red Zin, a John Wayne movie ( The Searchers ), and a beautiful woman at the fort, in preparation for the on-slaught of Armageddon!!!I like people like you! Just Real!If not the Astrodome I say Texas could set aside maybe 4 square miles or less where developers could come in and develop a mini Vegas. Put it in an area where no one live such as somewhere in West Texas maybe the desert that way people wont complain. It would develop densely because everyone would want some of the land within the boundary. I think more people would be willing to except gambling in a concentrated boundary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I like people like you! Just Real! If not the Astrodome I say Texas could set aside maybe 4 square miles or less where developers could come in and develop a mini Vegas. Put it in an area where no one live such as somewhere in West Texas maybe the desert that way people wont complain. It would develop densely because everyone would want some of the land within the boundary. I think more people would be willing to except gambling in a concentrated boundary. While we're at it, there ought to be a red light district as one component of the Reliant Park gambling district. Just like Amsterdam, but with prettier women...and men, because I need a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 While we're at it, there ought to be a red light district as one component of the Reliant Park gambling district. Just like Amsterdam, but with prettier women...and men, because I need a job. After your army idea, nothing should surprise me Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 After your army idea, nothing should surprise me Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex. Nor do you see as many women lining up to go to places to tuck in 1 dollar bills in men. "Weaker sex" my poopy head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 After your army idea, nothing should surprise me Alas, unless you're thinking of switching teams, the first legal male prosty in the US recently quit his Nevada bunny ranch gig after a couple of months to go back to porn. No customers. That's one bright spot about being female: I may make 78 cents to the man's dollar, but I'll never have to pay for sex. Just so we're perfectly clear...that was a joke. I have a future now. And what's so crazy about seeking an Army commission, anyway? Crazy would be sitting on my ass for another year (or longer). Another kind of crazy would be expending ridiculous sums of borrowed resources to go to a grad school that does little to distance myself from a dead industry. Military experience signals a clean break from past work experience as well as some amount of personal discipline and an ability to commit to something in the face of certain adversity; it gets me an in with every employer that's ever been in the military; and the leadership experience puts me on a level that no fresh-faced MBA or baby lawyer can really compete with. I know that I probably come off sounding like an advertisement, but these are conclusions I've drawn from discussing this idea with former employers as well as with all the chumps that have actually done grad school and are now working for the Census just to scrape by. Then consider the pecuniary aspects. It'll pay about $120k for three years, plus room and board for those years (whatever that's worth), followed by Hazelwood Act (100% free tuition and fees for 150 credit hours, transferable to a spouse or dependents) combined with the MGIB & Kicker...which (for UH Law School, as a specific example) adds up to Marksmu's 'gubbmint' paying out about another $192k. So for three years that I might've spent as a depressing unemployable bum or otherwise digging myself deeper into a debt hole in an effort to convince myself that I'm being productive--which I wouldn't be, really--I instead get to accumulate government-backed benefits, the best kind of benefit, on par with a job that has a six-figure salary. It's a no-brainer. ... and all I have to do is ensure that that phrase doesn't inadvertently become double entendre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Just so we're perfectly clear...that was a joke. I have a future now. Good thing dude! Nice new photo BTW - I didn't know you were Hindu... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Note to self : Buy lottery tickets tomorrow night, so that I can win big, and open the Astrodome into the Hanuman Cat-house & Casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is just my opinion, but I think the Astrodome will be next in line to face the same destiny Texas Stadium did this morning. With a massive city deficit and a shortfall of a projected $90 million by the end of the next fiscal year, I think the Astrodome will be next for the demolition teams. It's costing the city millions to keep it as is every year and with a lackluster economy, I just don't see the dome being saved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) This is just my opinion, but I think the Astrodome will be next in line to face the same destiny Texas Stadium did this morning. With a massive city deficit and a shortfall of a projected $90 million by the end of the next fiscal year, I think the Astrodome will be next for the demolition teams. It's costing the city millions to keep it as is every year and with a lackluster economy, I just don't see the dome being saved.The City of Houston does not own the Astrodome.Also, according to my analysis based upon cost estimates from a Chronicle article, the net present value of demolition is less than that of mothballing the facility indefinitely. Unless the site is to be redeveloped, it doesn't make any sense For the Sports Authority to demolish the facility. Edited April 12, 2010 by TheNiche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The City of Houston does not own the Astrodome.Also, according to my analysis based upon cost estimates from a Chronicle article, the net present value of demolition is less than that of mothballing the facility indefinitely. Unless the site is to be redeveloped, it doesn't make any sense For the Sports Authority to demolish the facility.I stand corrected. Who owns the Astrodome then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I stand corrected. Who owns the Astrodome then?The HCHSA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Hmmm, actually you are both incorrect. The Astrodome is owned by Harris County alone. HCHSA is a joint city/county entity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So what is this thing going to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Hmmm, actually you are both incorrect. The Astrodome is owned by Harris County alone. HCHSA is a joint city/county entity.I thought that it was the Sports Authority that was still paying down the debt from constructing the Astrodome, using proceeds from hotel taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So, what? Is the movie studio idea dead now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So, what? Is the movie studio idea dead now?I'm not clear that the sperm ever fertilized the egg that it could possibly be aborted, much less that it ever lived that it might die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Considering that the Astrodome has its own zipcode, and inner loop Houston is desperate for hotel space, I wish that they would reconsider the hotel idea. Astrodome could easily divide up into 1200 spacious rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I'm not clear that the sperm ever fertilized the egg that it could possibly be aborted, much less that it ever lived that it might die.Ah, Dear Niche ... thou dost protest too much! Thy egg and sperm wilt camerge' du pe' without thee - spread across the dark of the moon - thus saving the said Astro-Dome by thy esparages!Note: Old vine red Zin, chapter 6, verse 3; 5. Edited April 13, 2010 by Hanuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I thought that it was the Sports Authority that was still paying down the debt from constructing the Astrodome, using proceeds from hotel taxes.The HCHSA does not own the Astrodome, nor does it have any debt related to the Astrodome. Nobody had even dreamed of a sports authority at the time the Astrodome was constructed.Harris County built the Astrodome and has always owned it.The debt that remains on the Astrodome is not from its construction, but from the remodel and addition of seating capacity sometime around the mid-80s (not sure about the exact time-frame, but it was to keep the Oilers from moving to Jacksonville).I am pretty sure the debt is being paid by Harris County general revenue, not by any dedicated revenue source (such as hotel taxes). Edited April 13, 2010 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 timely article on the debt from the Chron:Astrodome DebtI'm sure we'll hear more details about this today after the County votes on the Dynamo stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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