mlyoung83 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 A few cell phone pics from the rooftop area of the Wedge bar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 wow.. is the bar open to the public or do you have to have reservations/be there for a special event? i would love to go out onto an open air deck like that in downtown and take in the surroundings.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlyoung83 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's open to the public, no reservations needed. I was even in shorts and sandals when I went up one time. On Friday afternoons and evenings, it's a ghost town up there, with everyone going home for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Brookfield's updated site puts it at 50 floors. DescriptionFive Allen Center is a 50-story, 1.1-million-square-foot office tower planned for development by Brookfield Properties. The building will encompass the Allen Center Gateway, a 2.5-acre site located in Houston's central business district. The tower offers unobstructed views to the north, west and south, and is surrounded by parks offering abundant green space. Five Allen Center offers unparalleled access to all of Houston's major thoroughfars, including Interstate 45, US 59, Interstate 10, Allen Parkway and Memorial Drive. A sky bridge provides direct access to all of the Allen Center amenities as well as tunnel connection to downtown. Brookfield Properties is committed to environmental sustainability at Five Allen Center, which will acheive LEED Gold certification. http://brookfieldofficeproperties.com/content/Houston/Five_Allen_Center-8784.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Brookfield's updated site puts it at 50 floors. http://brookfieldofficeproperties.com/content/Houston/Five_Allen_Center-8784.htmlOdd. Are they going to do the renovations on the existing Allen Center buildings, and try and throw up this tower? I think it might just be a copy and paste from their original description of it, since there are no 'updated' renderings for the 50 floor design. Edit: http://brookfieldofficeproperties.com/us/houston/allen-center/allen-center-clay-streetAt least this gives me hope that one day they might beautify the garage if they put a tower on it... eventually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So, it looks as though Five Allen Center is still alive but in hibernation. A 50-story tower, properly done, would be very attractive in that location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So, it looks as though Five Allen Center is still alive but in hibernation. A 50-story tower, properly done, would be very attractive in that location. To be honest, this is one of the primest locations downtown. What if this tower was 80 stories right there... Wow. If Brookfield was smart, they would run an all out blitz and make this the top spot in Texas. They are probably too late though. If they ran the blitz on this property, they should have been the first to break ground. I guess it may not be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 To be honest, this is one of the primest locations downtown. What if this tower was 80 stories right there... Wow. If Brookfield was smart, they would run an all out blitz and make this the top spot in Texas. They are probably too late though. If they ran the blitz on this property, they should have been the first to break ground. I guess it may not be too late. Brookfield does not appear to be in any rush to build. I agree that this would be a wonderful spot for a new tallest-building-in-the-city. Brookfield can wait for other projects (609 Main, 6 Houston Center, Capitol Tower) to be completed and filled to look for tenants. The difficulty is finding a tenant that would demand and be willing to pay a premium for the recognition a supertall would provide. Oil companies have the money, but do not seem to have the interest in plastering their name on a supertall. We really need some good ole fashioned ego to get involved here--someone who wants to "leave his mark" on Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 If I had my druthers this wouldn't be my first pick for a super-tall or high profile skyscraper location. It's a little outside of the heart of downtown, and at the tail of the tunnel system. My vote, if I had one, would still go to to the Walker-Milam-McKinney-Louisiana block where BoSW wasn't built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I agree with you Subdude. Its the natural spot for a supertall. That way it wouldn't block anything from the west side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
democide Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I would say a better place for a super tall would be in front of the DoubleTree Hotel, where that massive garage was built, or where the Days Inn is at. Anyways, Five Allen Center has to be 50-stories, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This building is nothing but a dream. One, Two, Three Allen Centers are not fully leased. Same for Total Plaza and 1600 Smith has more than 150,000 square feet not leased. That is why it's a dream for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Brookfield can wait for other projects (609 Main, 6 Houston Center, Capitol Tower) to be completed and filled to look for tenants. Or they can pull a "Rick Perry" and start poaching tenants from other parts of the country (which is the only way Dallas can add billion-dollar corporate citizens). So how fresh is that update? Seems like the size of the project has yo-yo'ed a bit - starting at 50, then going down to 40 (and in some renderings, even as small as 20), and now back to 50. Brookfield must still be looking for that 'sweet spot'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 That is why it's a dream for now. For now. But Downtown Houston is 90% occupied, which is the highest it's been in decades. I keep hearing large contiguous blocks of space are hard to come by, and absorption is on a pace to clear out the regional inventory of new development in less than three years. So by the time this one's finished, its time may have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Brookfield's updated site puts it at 50 floors.http://brookfieldofficeproperties.com/content/Houston/Five_Allen_Center-8784.htmlThe website was updated a while back. The project was downsized, but the site still says it's 50 floors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Allen-Center-adds-energy-tenants-nears-full-5862849.php#/0 Brookfield has space to add another high-rise office building on the site of a parking lot it owns just north of the Allen Center Garage. "Brookfield is not a speculative developer," Frazier said. "We would love to build on it if we found a lead tenant commitment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So what does it take to be a lead tenant? 100 k SF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
democide Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So what does it take to be a lead tenant? 100 k SF? I believe at least half of the total floor space, so around 550-600 k sq. ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Not a speculative builder? Hmm.Case in point: Brookfield Manhattan West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Not many single tenants fit the bill, and the ship's pretty much sailed on the few that were looking. Maybe a new company that hasn't even IPO'ed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Someone show me why this location is so good for uber tall illustrations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Someone show me why this location is so good for uber tall illustrations?i just think it would be awkward having a really tall tower all up on 45, skewing the skyline by having one sticking out like a sore thumb front and center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It's not like it would be the last... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Not a speculative builder? Hmm.Case in point: Brookfield Manhattan West.Pretty sure Brookfield did not go spec on the Manhattan West office building(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I believe at least half of the total floor space, so around 550-600 k sq. ft.I think that's for the 1.1 million sf building that was going to be 50 stories tall. Now that it appears to be shorter (35 stories), I'm guessing the size is on the order of 750,000 sf, and a lead tenant would take 300-350k of that. Still not many of those out there who haven't committed to somewhere else, but I'm sure Brookfield is actively looking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 fyi, this project, along with the other two downtown Houston projects they had listed are no longer on the website. Looks like they edited that page to show only they're serious projects because there were a lot more listed before. edit: guess they're not listed on their website but they're in the annual report (2nd link) http://www.brookfieldofficeproperties.com/content/portfolio/all_developments-8943.html http://brookfieldofficeproperties.com/_Global/25/img/content/AnnualReports/BPO%202015%20Annual%20Report.pdf Also, were we aware Pickard Chilton was the architect? http://cosentini.com/images/Project-Sheets/Headquarters-Experience.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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