[houwest]

[editor]

Not strictly Houston-based, but it started in part of the metro...

The Galveston Daily News started publishing April 11, 1842. It was a huge back then, as everything in Galveston was before the 1900 storm. It was so big that it founded a sister paper called the Morning News in what was then a small prairie backwater called Dallas.

For some reason the Dallas Morning News is considered the oldest business in Texas. I'm not sure why this is. Maybe because the Galveston paper moved to Houston for a couple of years during the Civil War.

As an aside, it's interesting to note that the Galveston Daily News had the first telephone in Texas.

[tmariar]

In trying to figure out which is the oldest bar in Houston, I realized that what business is the "oldest" in a category can depend a lot on the details (does the business need to have been operating under the same name? at the same location? uninterrupted? what counts as a "bar" (or restaurant, or whatever the category)? etc.). Still, I love hearing about long-running Houston businesses, so I hope you get some good responses. Especially if there are other businesses that have been in operation here since before 1900 - that's really interesting.

Shudde Bros. has been in business since 1907, I think, though they recently moved from Washington Ave.

Kaplan's Ben Hur recently closed after being in business since 1913.

I have some pre-1900 copies of the Houston Chronicle Daily Post, and will check them later for familliar names. I think there were some Foley Bros. ads in there.

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[editor]

I think "uninterrupted" is the most important qualifier. I'm pretty flexible with the rest.

[dbigtex56]

Southland Hardware on Westheimer has been around for a long time, but have no idea when it first opened.

[tmariar]

dbigtex56, on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 10:59am, said:

Southland Hardware on Westheimer has been around for a long time, but have no idea when it first opened.

Since 1935, it looks like.

The Houston-based law firm Baker Botts dates back to 1874, if not before.

Houston's Daily Court Review, has been published since 1889.

St. Joseph's Hospital was apparently founded in 1887.

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[gonzo1976]

tmariar, on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 9:15am, said:

I have some pre-1900 copies of the Houston Chronicle, and will check them later for familliar names.

The Chronicle started in 1901. Though if you have the first issue of the newspaper that would be quite the collectable!

I'm pretty sure some law firms here could be listed among Houston's oldest businesses.

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[tmariar]

gonzo1976, on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 11:52am, said:

The Chronicle started in 1901. Though if you have the first issue of the newspaper that would be quite the collectable!

That's funny. No, I'm sure I just have copies of some other Houston paper that was around pre-1900 and was thinking it was the Chronicle because I don't have them in front of me. Thanks for the correction!

[Edit: It's the Houston Daily Post.]

Teas Nursery dates back to 1910.

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[Vertigo58]

Can think of at least 3 burger joints, etc.

Someburger - Heights
Poppaburger on N Main (been there forever) my aunt ran it for years too.
Cozy Kitchen barbecue on Lockwood
El Jardin Mex restaurant on Harrisburg

Crespo Funeral Home on Navigation (very old)
Morales Funeral Home on Canal

[mwkellner]

Vertigo58, on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 2:00pm, said:

Can think of at least 3 burger joints, etc.

Someburger - Heights
Poppaburger on N Main (been there forever) my aunt ran it for years too.
Cozy Kitchen barbecue on Lockwood
El Jardin Mex restaurant on Harrisburg

Crespo Funeral Home on Navigation (very old)
Morales Funeral Home on Canal




There is a someburger in Baytown that has been there for at least 40 years. I wonder if they are connected some how? If I ate at the one in the Hieghts, I would know instantly. Where is it in the heights?

[houwest]

Various observations:
Cozy Kitchen has a sign in the window that says "since 1946". Another oldie, of about the same ilk is Triple A by the Farmer's Market on Airline. It used to be called Trucker's Cafe in the early 50's but I'm pretty sure that was just a name, not an ownership change. May father had a business in the area and he and his cronies would go over there and drink coffee every morning for about 30 minutes. Sort of like an early Starbucks, I guess.

Someburger is at W. 11th and Studewood.

For years, I haven't noticed it in a long time , on the masthead of the Chron., it said Houston Chronicle and Herald.

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[brucesw]

Someburger has only been around since the 1950s and yes the 2 locations are related, owned by brothers. There's a thread about Someburger in which I posted a pic of the Heights location and another thread where the pic was copied. I've also posted the link to the BT website, but here it is again. There's a history of the chain on the website. There are lots of restaurants that are older.

Since editor has brought up Galveston businesses, there's a cafe at the corner of 8th and Post Office, I think, just off UTMB, called Schutte's Corner, with a sign over the door which says 'since 1885.'

I thought I had another good one with Thomas Goggan and Brothers from 1866 in Galveston, but apparently they're not in business anymore? I didn't realize that.

[Vertigo58]

houwest, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 10:29am, said:

Various observations:

Cozy Kitchen has a sign in the window that says "since 1946". and Herald.

That dates it to the almost exact days when mom says they (teens) used to go there to eat after dances.


Frenchy's Chicken over by TSU has been around for decades too. I am sure someone here can give more detail on Frenchy's. Man it is delicious! Very home style.

[gonzo1976]

brucesw, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 11:55am, said:

Since editor has brought up Galveston businesses, there's a cafe at the corner of 8th and Post Office, I think, just off UTMB, called Schutte's Corner, with a sign over the door which says 'since 1885.'

It's been a couple of decades since I've been there -- and it's probably closed now -- but wasn't there a soda fountain in Galveston that had the distinction of being the oldest soda fountain in the state?

[isuredid]

Settegast-Kopf Funeral Directors have been around by name since 1901, but I doubt that it is still owned and operated by family members.

[Vertigo58]

isuredid, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 2:37pm, said:

Settegast-Kopf Funeral Directors have been around by name since 1901, but I doubt that it is still owned and operated by family members.

In fact, most cemetaries and or funeral have existed for eons but like Crespo, it is run by newer people but use same name, peculiar but true. Imagine how long Forest Park on Lawndale have been around?

Here is good one; Blue Top Motel on Telephone still keeps the red light on to this day!

World's oldest profession indeed.

[isuredid]

Vertigo58, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 4:29pm, said:

In fact, most cemetaries and or funeral have existed for eons but like Crespo, it is run by newer people but use same name, peculiar but true. Imagine how long Forest Park on Lawndale have been around?


Glenwood Cemetery: In business since 1872 in the same location.

But, as you say, the original owners and their company, The Houston Cemetery Corporation, all all defunct, and likely residing there now.

[Original Timmy Chan's]

Vertigo58, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 12:40pm, said:

Frenchy's Chicken over by TSU has been around for decades too. I am sure someone here can give more detail on Frenchy's. Man it is delicious! Very home style.

Frenchy's established in 1969.

Guy's Meat Market established in 1938...but they have only been at their current location since 1958.

[brucesw]

Original Timmy Chan's, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 5:55pm, said:

Frenchy's established in 1969.

Guy's Meat Market established in 1938...but they have only been at their current location since 1958.

Frenchy's - yep, every location I've been to says that on the sign. That's neat about Guy's - I love their burgers and chili but didn't know they'd been around that long.

If you want to count Bibas One's a Meal on West Gray as a One's a Meal, that chain dates to 1933.

Prince's - 1929 in Dallas, in Houston from 1934, but out of business for some time, I don't remember how long, ca. the late 1990s.

More from Galveston: Gaido's, 1911; Original Mexican Cafe on 14th - dates differ according to the sources, 1913, 1916, 1918. Up until a few years ago anyway always the same family but I don't know if that's still true.

Anybody know the history of Bering Hardware? When I was researching my blog in the 1920s I saw frequent ads for Bering-Cortes Hardware in the papers - the ancestor of the current store?

[isuredid]

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[houwest]

I'm going out on a I think a pretty safe limb here and say Knapp Chevrolet is the oldest car dealer in town, since 1941 on Houston Ave.
http://www.houstonde...940s/knapp.html

As Henry Ford said to himself one time "That's a lot of darn Chevrolets".

[mwkellner]

brucesw, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 7:51pm, said:

Frenchy's - yep, every location I've been to says that on the sign. That's neat about Guy's - I love their burgers and chili but didn't know they'd been around that long.

If you want to count Bibas One's a Meal on West Gray as a One's a Meal, that chain dates to 1933.

Prince's - 1929 in Dallas, in Houston from 1934, but out of business for some time, I don't remember how long, ca. the late 1990s.

More from Galveston: Gaido's, 1911; Original Mexican Cafe on 14th - dates differ according to the sources, 1913, 1916, 1918. Up until a few years ago anyway always the same family but I don't know if that's still true.

Anybody know the history of Bering Hardware? When I was researching my blog in the 1920s I saw frequent ads for Bering-Cortes Hardware in the papers - the ancestor of the current store?

Thanks Bruce for the info on Someburger. Interesting. I think that I will eat at the one in the heights sunday after the walking tour.

A note on guy's. My Dad drives from Baytown to get their brisket rub (several pounds at a time) I have never had any better, seriously. I had no idea that they were that old though.

[isuredid]

brucesw, on Wednesday, May 7th, 2008 @ 7:51pm, said:

F
Anybody know the history of Bering Hardware? When I was researching my blog in the 1920s I saw frequent ads for Bering-Cortes Hardware in the papers - the ancestor of the current store?

A. Bering and Bro was the name of the company before Bering & Cortes. I'm not sure what year it started but this advertisement is from 1886. I believe that Cortes was the son-in-law of August Bering. Bering Hardware is still run by descendants of August Bering

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[isuredid]

isuredid, on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 @ 10:40am, said:

A. Bering and Bro was the name of the company before Bering & Cortes. I'm not sure what year it started but this advertisement is from 1886. I believe that Cortes was the son-in-law of August Bering. Bering Hardware is still run by descendants of August Bering

I found a history of Bering's on their web site here Bering Hardware History

Some of the history sounds a bit apocryphal.

[Vertigo58]

Wouldn't Foley Brothers count too?

Been around since time began (seems) in downtown then later moved to new building 1947-49? dropped the brothers and now as we know today as Macy's.

We should have had some beer brewery's in the mix somewhere?

Pearl/Lone Star doesnt count it was San Antonio I think.

[brucesw]

houwest, on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 @ 9:37am, said:

I'm going out on a I think a pretty safe limb here and say Knapp Chevrolet is the oldest car dealer in town, since 1941 on Houston Ave.
http://www.houstonde...940s/knapp.html

As Henry Ford said to himself one time "That's a lot of darn Chevrolets".

Pretty amazing just that they've been at the same location for that long.

mwkellner, on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 @ 9:38am, said:

Thanks Bruce for the info on Someburger. Interesting. I think that I will eat at the one in the heights sunday after the walking tour.

A note on guy's. My Dad drives from Baytown to get their brisket rub (several pounds at a time) I have never had any better, seriously. I had no idea that they were that old though.

Someburger's closed on Sunday.

Love the Guy's Seasoning, too.

isuredid, on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 @ 10:40am, said:

I found a history of Bering's on their web site here Bering Hardware History

Some of the history sounds a bit apocryphal.

Hmm. So if it weren't for some English-only speaking oxen, Bering's would be a hill country institution rather than a Houston institution?



Ad from November, 1922, the Houston Post. Prairie at Milam I think it says. The Post was always over-inked.

[Rweil]

Rice Epicurean - opened in 1937 as Rice Boulevard Food Market, and then became Rice Food Market in 1957, followed by Rice Epicurean in 1988, and is run by third generation of the founding Levy family. Anyone remember the 1960's advertising campaign "Smile, you're near a Rice Food Market"?

[Vertigo58]

What about Knapp Chevrolet?

That has been there for ages! 1940's?


The florist across from Stephen F Austin HS on Dumble has been there mucho longo timo too.

Think about any other florist's!

Some on Navigation & on Lawndale been around since 1940 - 50's (qualify?)

[isuredid]

Schott's Bakery: Established 1893

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[Dieseldrvr]

isuredid, on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 @ 10:04am, said:

Indeed they are very open, and going strong. Many many homes in Houston have been built with the superior lumber from the Montalbano family. Big Johnny has been at the helm of the flagship Houston store for a long time, and his son John Jr is currently working his way up there, as he has done since a child, and his brother Vincent is working under their Uncle's tuttlege at the Shepherd store. A great family that has done alot for Houston, I have been friends of theirs for a long time. Interesting story, Francesco Montalbano, the original who immigrated to the US from Italy, was going through NOLA entering the country, he could only say in english "mill" as his former occupation, so they put him to work in a saw mill in East Texas, he actually worked in a flour mill. He saved money and moved to Houston to start a grocery market, and sold firewood on the side. The wood business worked for him far more than the food business did, and that's how the family was transformed into the lumber biz. His son Joseph married Sadie Butera before taking over the business from Francesco. Mama Sadie was a great woman who recently passed away. They are cousins to the Buteras, Carrabba's, Mandola's, Maida's, and many other Italian families in Houston.

Another note, if schools count, St. Thomas High School has been around since 1900 and is going strong, IWA downtown predates it though I know.

[TJones]

Maxwell House Coffee, originally started in 1892 as Cheek and Cheek coffee,local coffee barristas of Nashville. They are the ones who provided the coffee to Maxwell House Hotel in Nashville, which is eventually where they got the name.

Tea's Nursery has been in business since 1843. "Company Information: This nursery has made a name for itself by supplying Houston gardeners for more than 150 years. Believe it or not, this one has actually been in business since 1843. Orchids and exotic plants are popular items, along with traditional roses and African violets. Numerous gardening books and supplies are also available in abundance. Newer services include a garden newsletter, kids gardening club and a packed mail-order catalog. Greenhouse enthusiasts will appreciate both the quality and value of the products and services found at every location. Call if you need information about alternate locations."

BTW, the WORLD'S "oldest profession" is still alive and well in a couple of parts of Houston. Does THAT count or does it only count if you actually have an establishment to work out of ?

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[Dieseldrvr]

Oh, and the great Shudde Bros Hatters is closing, or may have already. They couldn't justify staying in that location. Neil Shudde has moved all of the equipment to the Brookwood Community and is training the good resindents on how to use the equipment, some of it is turn of the century equpment that hasn't been reproduced in a better way. I used to work there restoring old hats, the factory there in the house has some amazing history that alot of people never get to see. Using that old equipment was a blast. Interestingly they are only 1 of 2 if I remember correctly, that is allowed to stamp the Resistol and Stetson hat brands back into restored hats. I helped to restore an original General Sam Houston hat for the museum, was very satisfying work. It's amazing how much business they do with the arts field, Broadway shows have used their hats for many many years, as have many movie prop companies. Many famous people passed through their shop, many I had the honor of working on their hats.

[rsb320]

I think Imperial Sugar (Sugar Land) dates back to the mid 1800's.

Does anybody know when the Maxwell House 'roastary' closed? I remember driving down the freeway and you could smell roasting coffee.

[isuredid]

Here are a few more

Southland Hardare: Established 1935 Southland Hardware

Cox Hardware: Established 1946 Cox Hardware Web Site

The Briar Shoppe: Establised 1962 The Briar Shoppe Web Site

Avalon Drug Store: Establised 1938

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[rsb320]

Cleburne Cafeteria - 1941

Breens Florist - 1943

[rsb320]

Here's a bunch.

Baker Botts - 1840
Fulbright & Jaworski - 1919
KBR - 1901
Kelsey-Seybold - 1949
Shipley Do-Nuts - 1936
Stewart & Stevenson -1902
Vinson & Elkins -1917
Imperial Sugar - 1843


Humble Oil/Exxon - 1911
Texas Oil Company/Chevron-Texaco 1901

[Vertigo58]

There must be a few Tailor's that have been around for years?

and then like the shoe repair place in Rice U? (Had the big sign picturing a mans shoe)

[rsb320]

Vertigo58, on Friday, May 9th, 2008 @ 7:36am, said:

There must be a few Tailor's that have been around for years?

and then like the shoe repair place in Rice U? (Had the big sign picturing a mans shoe)

Houston Shoe Hospital - 1906

[Vertigo58]

rsb320, on Friday, May 9th, 2008 @ 1:08pm, said:

Houston Shoe Hospital - 1906

Thats it! Tks!

Notary Public's come a dime a dozen so not sure if those quality. Liquor Stores change often and Spec's may have orginated elsewhere but remember seeing that big bunny with the spectacle's since childhood.

Door to door Britannica Encyclopedia sales people and Fuller Brush sales people too?

Avon, Stanley Products

Just brainstormin...

[rsb320]

Spec's opened in Houston in 1962 and is still operated by the same family. They also have stores in Beaumont.

[Dieseldrvr]

rsb320, on Friday, May 9th, 2008 @ 1:31pm, said:

Spec's opened in Houston in 1962 and is still operated by the same family. They also have stores in Beaumont.

All hail the great Spec's!! The downtown store is the Greatest Place On Earth!! Walt Disney has nothing on the Spec's empire.

[Vertigo58]

Dieseldrvr, on Friday, May 9th, 2008 @ 1:55pm, said:

All hail the great Spec's!! The downtown store is the Greatest Place On Earth!! Walt Disney has nothing on the Spec's empire.

I remember (as a child) Spec's were located in some of the most unassuming locals around Houston. The building of one of them is at Hardy and Quitman? in very Near old North Side. It was mysterious to a 6 year old kid. I never dreamed thats where adults buy their own personal fuel.

The giant rabbbit is what got our attention so we assumed it was a store for children.

[isuredid]

Three Brothers Bakery - 1949

Variety Fair 5 & 10 in the Village - 1948

River Oaks Theater - 1939

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[57Tbird]

I noticed this ad recently in an old yearbook. I was curious if Sweeney's was still in business, so I did a little research and found that they are, but under the name of Sweeney & Co Jewelers. While looking, I also found some other interesting tidbits surrounding Sweeney's...

They were originally housed here, when they first went into business.

It appears they occupied several locations downtown before settling into their final location in that area as noted on the ad above.

A picture of that location in 1929 is shown in this publication by Story Sloane of Sloane Gallery...

I'm not sure, but I think they vacated there in the mid-50's.

Here is something else I came across... This old clock was built in 1908 and placed in front of the J. J. Sweeney Jewelry store where they were located then at 409 Main Street. It remained in front of the store from 1908-1928, where it was also used as a hitching post for horse drawn carriages.
Donated by the store to the City of Houston in 1929, the clock was moved to the downtown Farmer's Market and later to the courtyard of a municipal building near the Jefferson Davis Hospital.
By 1968 the clock had deteriorated badly. It was restored and moved to its present location, the Sweeney triangle in 1971 with funds provided by the Colonial Dames of America. A base for the 15-foot timepiece was made using paving bricks from historic Navigation Street."




Present location in the park bounded by Capitol, Rusk and Bagby.



I think most, if not all the jewelry stores in early Houston, were family owned/operated and gradually succumbed to the larger wholesale jewelry operations. Some that I remember from the 50's, besides Sweeney's, were Corrigan's, Lechenger's, and Gordon's.

[brucesw]

Nielsen's delicatessen - 1952 - I read that when they first opened they tried serving Danish style open-faced sandwiches, smorrebrod, but Houstonians were baffled so they switched to American style sandwiches. Interesting that they're older than Someburger.

Molina's - 1941. Seems like there's another of the old style Tex-Mex places that started that year too - Loma Linda?

Yale Grill and Gift Shop - 1923

Star Furniture's current TV ads are about their 96th anniversary sale.

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[FilioScotia]

editor, on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 9:02am, said:

For some reason the Dallas Morning News is considered the oldest business in Texas. I'm not sure why this is. Maybe because the Galveston paper moved to Houston for a couple of years during the Civil War.

This is one of the real oddities in Texas history. The Dallas Morning News claim to be the state's oldest business is true, sort of.

The DMN started out as the Galveston News in 1842. In the 1860s, a fellow named Alfred Belo went to work there and later bought the paper. In the 1880s, Belo started the Dallas Morning News to operate as a satellite of the Galveston News. In the 1920s, Belo's company sold the Galveston paper to Galveston banker William Moody and the two papers went their separate ways.

So the DMN can legimitately trace its lineage all the way back to the 1842 Galveston News, which makes it the oldest continuously operating business in Texas.

Here's the full story in the Handbook of Texas. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/...es/GG/eeg3.html

This post has been edited by FilioScotia: Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 7:35 PM

[Vertigo58]

57Tbird, on Saturday, May 10th, 2008 @ 2:41pm, said:

I think most, if not all the jewelry stores in early Houston, were family owned/operated and gradually succumbed to the larger wholesale jewelry operations. Some that I remember from the 50's, besides Sweeney's, were Corrigan's, Lechenger's, and Gordon's.

If only someone would or could re-create that clock! I for one am willing to buy one! Way toooo cool!

[musicman]

Vertigo58, on Monday, May 12th, 2008 @ 7:34am, said:

If only someone would or could re-create that clock! I for one am willing to buy one! Way toooo cool!

there's one right by bayou place on bagby

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[isuredid]

I thought of some others that are all fairly close to each other:

Gibbs Boat Company Established 1945 - West Gray at Montrose - Gibbs Boat Company

Texas Art Supply - Establised 1948

Southwestern Paint Company - Established 1940 - 1000 West Gray South=estern Paint Company Web Site

Bobbit Glass Company - Established 1938


And one that is not close to the above:

The Original Kolache Shoppe - Established 1956 - 5404 Telephone Road at Long Drive

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[Vertigo58]

There used to be a Lumber Yard named Tampke's Lumber Yard on Lawndale (any research Isuredid?)

Olshan Lumber must be quite old and that one that's still in operation on Old Galveston at is it College/Airport or Edgebrook? sits right along RR tracks. Guess thats considered South Houston.

How about Bethlehem Steel or Bama Jelly company used to be on Lockwood / Navigation?

American Can Company is like major old but I am not sure if all of the above orginated in Houston or up north? Is that a disqualifier...