[yaga]

Has anybody heard of this or know WHY THE HELL it's going to built in Pasadena?



It's listed on the EDI architecture website under Projects On the Boards with everybody's favorite proposed project, The Shamrock.

[The Great Hizzy!]

Judging by the picture, it's probably a proposed project for the section of Pasadena that borders Clear Lake. Pull out a map and study Pasadena's city limits. It's vast and borders quite a bit of the Clear Lake Area.

I could be wrong but that would seem the logical place to put a proposed tower in Pasadena.

[Lowbrow]

Of course renderings arent known for keeping the landscaping very accurate. Its probably surrounded by CVS's.

[kjb434]

It makes sense that it would be by Clear Lake. Pasadena is just refinieries and slums. Many parts are nice. The only reason I know is I had to do some field work out there for some new developments. Several Environmental service companies want to relocate out there. The southern parts of Pasadena look nothing like the northern parts.

[danes75]

if they're building it in pasadena, and not by the lake, its cause the land is like a nickle an acre.

[The Great Hizzy!]

KJB is right. I've had to go out there for my work as well and the first couple miles south of SH 225 is pretty low income, but about midways it becomes typical middle class and then you start getting into those upper middle class subdivisions like what you'd found out in Katy or League City.

Pasadena also has one of the lowest crime rates of any city with 100,000 residents or more. It's like 280 out of 335 or something like that.

The refineries blow, though.

[kjb434]

Pasadena reminds me a lot of a minature Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The north side is full of refineries and low income. The south side is beautifull and new.

[texasboy]

June 1, 2005, 12:10AM

Pasadena approves condo project
'Endeavour' will be first high-rise for Clear Lake
By CAROL CHRISTIAN
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/t...olitics/3206247

[skwatra]

i live at 4600 NASA parkway, this is it 4821. it's going to stick out...
there is a plot of land where i think this is (using mapping on yahoo, which shows it to be seabrook, but its pasadena jurisdiction which i unfortunately found out). its cleared out with a black construction wall around it, and a trailor but no signs. but the space seems to small for a 15 story building, so this may be something else...

[skwatra]

there's a billboard up un 45S just outside the beltway.
i'll keep you guys posted since there's finally something i drive by daily worth mentioning on here.

[Original Timmy Chan's]

danax, on Monday, June 13th, 2005 @ 8:00pm, said:

Apparently this project will happen. Bizjournal article

Interesting that they're playing on the "beauty of the industrial lights" as their version of "skyline views". Not too close though or you'd have both views and peuws.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I hope no one makes fun of me for this, but I always loved the refinery "skyline views". In fact, I think the view from San Leon, looking across Galveston Bay at night towards Pasadena, Deer Park, La Porte and Baytown, is GREAT! Then again, I'm Pasadena born and bred, so the refineries are kind of like "home".

That's also my absolute favorite 4th of July fireworks watching spot...from that vantage point you see the fireworks from Pasadena, Deer Park, La Porte, Baytown, Clear Lake, Texas City, Galveston...not to mention all the rednecks shooting off their own fireworks over the water from the shore. That's an Independence Day Party right there, from people that know their independence!

[kjb434]

I use to love seeing the refinery views in Louisisana as you cross the Mississippi River. The best ones are when you cross the Sunshine Bridge in Donaldsonville.

I see the same then when crossing the bridge in Baytown and the Causeway.

I find they look like the Emeral City from the Wizard of Oz.

[skwatra]

i agree the refinery views can be spectacular, but then you realize what they really are and it takes away from it (for me at least). especially if its in your backyard.

[stolitx]

[quote=Original Timmy Chan's,Tuesday, June 14th, 2005 @ 10:47am]
I hope no one makes fun of me for this, but I always loved the refinery "skyline views". In fact, I think the view from San Leon, looking across Galveston Bay at night towards Pasadena, Deer Park, La Porte and Baytown, is GREAT! Then again, I'm Pasadena born and bred, so the refineries are kind of like "home".




I won't make fun. I agree. I always like the lights of the refineries. I grew up in Pasadena too. You know it didn't smell at all where I was. Really, it's just the area around 225 that smells. I'm amazed at the growth around the Beltway.

In fact I'm hitting the good old Don'Key today for lunch. I can't wait.

[Original Timmy Chan's]

stolitx, on Friday, June 17th, 2005 @ 7:43am, said:

In fact I'm hitting the good old Don'Key today for lunch. I can't wait.

DON'T DRINK THE WATER!

[stolitx]

Original Timmy Chan's, on Friday, June 17th, 2005 @ 9:15am, said:

DON'T DRINK THE WATER! 
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No worries. Just Donkerita's for me!

[houstonfella]

stolitx, on Saturday, June 18th, 2005 @ 9:09am, said:

No worries. Just Donkerita's for me!
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like Don Key too. I think Pasadena gets the black eye from its refineries on 225. However, most folks don't know that Pasadena has some very nice homes and subdivisions as well. Endeavor, we have liftoff! Eat your heart out metroplex.

[The Great Hizzy!]

We've talked about that before, 'Fella. The northern third of Pasadena is where the refineries are and where the older, poorer neighborhoods are. However, the middle third is average and the bottom third is exploding with new development.

People see a refinery (or any type of heavy industry) and immediately dismiss the surrounding area as slummy. Pretty simple-minded analysis, frankly.

[steverk]

I drove by this weekend. They now have a sales office and a sign that says prices will be 300K - 2 million. Even for water front, this is high dollar for the area.

They'll probably sell though, since this is the only high rise on clear lake.

[kjb434]

do they have a website?

[skwatra]

http://www.endeavourcondo.com/

there's a large crane on-site, and dirt is moving.

[Montrose1100]

skwatra, on Friday, December 16th, 2005 @ 1:19pm, said:

http://www.endeavourcondo.com/

there's a large crane on-site, and dirt is moving.

Anyone else notice those Moutains/hills in the last picture of the slide show?

Nice Tower though! And I like the pool. Also, will it change colors at night like in the video? That would "seperate me from my money".

This post has been edited by Montrose1100: Friday, December 16, 2005 at 1:32 PM

[sevfiv]

skwatra, on Friday, December 16th, 2005 @ 12:19pm, said:

http://www.endeavourcondo.com/

there's a large crane on-site, and dirt is moving.

this'll definitely be interesting!

btw - happy birthday!

[Talbot]

This project happened quicker than I thought. Good for Pasadena though.

And happy b-day skwatra!

This post has been edited by Talbot: Friday, December 16, 2005 at 6:11 PM

[77017]

The Great Hizzy!, on Friday, February 25th, 2005 @ 3:47pm, said:

KJB is right. I've had to go out there for my work as well and the first couple miles south of SH 225 is pretty low income, but about midways it becomes typical middle class and then you start getting into those upper middle class subdivisions like what you'd found out in Katy or League City.

Pasadena also has one of the lowest crime rates of any city with 100,000 residents or more. It's like 280 out of 335 or something like that.

The refineries blow, though.

Pasadena has 100,000 plus pop.?

[Watchful]

77017, on Saturday, December 17th, 2005 @ 6:04am, said:

Pasadena has 100,000 plus pop.?

The signs say 141K.

[Montrose1100]

Watchful, on Saturday, December 17th, 2005 @ 8:12am, said:

The signs say 141K.

Many people don't know Pasadena is the second most populous "city" in our metro.

[Dominax]

[quote name='yaga' date='Thursday, February 24th, 2005 @ 12:34pm' post='16875']
Has anybody heard of this or know WHY THE HELL it's going to built in Pasadena?



Well its about time this city gets its own ill skyscraper. As this city may or need to be like those ones like Irving, Richardson and Plano now that houston's metro getting high-rise buildings.

Pasadena is or will now be the second metro city that will have a high-rise as like The Woodlands.

[TJones]

What is all the jibber-jabber about Pasa-get down-dena ! Even the website says Clear Lake !

[The Great Hizzy!]

Well, the area is definitely Clear Lake but the site sits within the munipal boundaries of Pasadena. If you pull out a map, you'll see that, believe it or not, Pasadena has a southeastwardly stick of land that stretchs down to Clear Lake in between Nassau Bay and El Lago (I think). Anyway, it's a good site and will probably open the door for a condo boom in the Kemah/Clear Lake area. The residents fought long and hard against this for decades but this will probably open the door to more ostentatious development.

[The New Juniper]

The Great Hizzy!, on Sunday, December 18th, 2005 @ 2:08pm, said:

Well, the area is definitely Clear Lake but the site sits within the munipal boundaries of Pasadena. If you pull out a map, you'll see that, believe it or not, Pasadena has a southeastwardly stick of land that stretchs down to Clear Lake in between Nassau Bay and El Lago (I think). Anyway, it's a good site and will probably open the door for a condo boom in the Kemah/Clear Lake area. The residents fought long and hard against this for decades but this will probably open the door to more ostentatious development.

Guy already bought more land in the adjacent area. So far, it has been very successful. The outstanding issue that is of most concern is that he intends to build it himself with his construction co that has no high rise in its background.

[skwatra]

thanks for the birthday wishes. i think i had a good birthday from what i remember (gotta love sunday brunch at la strada).

Endeavour is technically in Pasadena, but i'm sure it'll be considered Clear Lake since its on the lake and that whole area is called the Clear Lake Area, or even Seabrook before Pasadena.

[Houston19514]

Are you sure about the Pasadena location? The website gives an El Lago address.

[sevfiv]

well, in yahoo maps, the address comes up as seabrook...i guess that doesn't sounds as good as "el lago"

plus, it is probably the address to the construction trailer...

This post has been edited by sevfiv: Monday, December 19, 2005 at 5:07 PM

[skwatra]

El Lago is on the other side of Kirby (east).
my address is Seabrook according to my apartment complex (4605, just east of the site right before Kirby), but i often just put Houston. The police jurisdiction for where i live and Endeavour are both Pasadena for sure, and the sign says welcome to Pasadena as well when you leave Houston (just after Space Center near Clear Lake Park).
maybe the address is Seabrook because the only Post Office anywhere near there is down in Seabrook?

the showroom is actually in El Lago, but the site is in Pasadena with a Seabrook address.

[gnu]

skwatra, on Monday, December 19th, 2005 @ 4:36pm, said:

El Lago is on the other side of Kirby (east).
my address is Seabrook according to my apartment complex (4605, just east of the site right before Kirby), but i often just put Houston. The police jurisdiction for where i live and Endeavour are both Pasadena for sure, and the sign says welcome to Pasadena as well when you leave Houston (just after Space Center near Clear Lake Park).
maybe the address is Seabrook because the only Post Office anywhere near there is down in Seabrook?

the showroom is actually in El Lago, but the site is in Pasadena with a Seabrook address.

That is exactly the reason the mailing address is Seabrook. The post office for that zip code (77586) is in Seabrook.

I used to live in Mariner Village (4747) right next to where Endeavor will be. It had a Seabrook address but was definately Pasadena City Limits. Paid my water bill to the City of Pasadena and got a speeding ticket from Pasadena PD almost in front of my house. It is 30mph there and they used to run a speed trap often.

I think they don't want it publicized that it is Pasadena right there since they have such tiny little Pasadena City Limits signs posted at Mud Lake and Taylor Lake. There is a Pasadena police and fire substation up Kirby near Red Bluff, I assume they would have gone down Kirby and cut through Taylor Lake Village to respond to any incident along that part of Nasa 1.

This post has been edited by gnu: Monday, December 19, 2005 at 6:22 PM

[houstonfella]

Endeavor is beautiful. I wouldn't mind living on Clear Lake. The entire Galveston Bay at your beck and call. And the parties on those big sailboats!!!

[Sooner&RiceGrad]

Great development. But does Pasadena still have the KKK bookstore?

[Boris]

[houstonfella]

This one is a beauty from the tower to the shores of Clear Lake. Paper reports only 31 unsold units. Those will probably be sold by completion.

[Boris]

Construction Begins on $57M Condo High Rise
By Amy Wolff Sorter
Last updated: April 24, 2006 08:04am

(To read more on the multifamily market, click here.)


PASADENA, TX-After an 18-month wait to develop 2.87 acres, construction has begun on Endeavor Clear Lake, the area's first high-rise condo project. The 30-story, 80-unit complex is scheduled for completion by summer 2007.


Endeavor Clear Lake, going up at 4821 NASA Parkway, will take a land tract currently valued at $1 million and turn it into a development valued at an estimated $57 million. The developer of record, Endeavor High-Rise LP of Houston, also is the general contractor. The high rise was designed by EDI of New York City.


The smallest condo will have two bedrooms; the largest, a five-bedroom penthouse. They will be marketed for $400,000 to $2.5 million.


Robin Parsley, president of Endeavor High-Rise LP, says the quartet of penthouses is sold. Overall presales stand at a shade less than 60%, she says. "For a building that's not even out of the ground, we're in pretty good shape," Parsley says, adding the goal is to have all condominiums sold before the high rise delivers.


Parsley tells GlobeSt.com he'd first eyed the property about 2.5 years ago, buying it a year later. One challenge to overcome was the area's height restriction. "One of the things we had to do was convince the City of Pasadena that this was a worthwhile project, though the city planner understood the project," Parsley says. "The planning department and planning commission were very supportive."


Though some effort was involved in securing variances for the city's height regulation, Parsley says it was time well spent. "This is a niche market, an untapped market. It's never been broken into before," he says. "Based on the demographics, there is high, pent-up demand for this type of living, thanks to Baby Boomers and empty nesters."

http://www.globest.c...n/145055-1.html


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60% of 80 units comes out to about 48 units sold. So It looks like a lot more than 30 units sold at this time.

[VicMan]

Since it's in the Clear Lake area, the condo is in the Clear Creek ISD.

The condo's address is zoned to:
* El Lago Elementary School (El Lago)
* Seabrook Intermediate School (Seabrook)
* Clear Lake High School (Houston)

However the condo will be rezoned to the brand new Elementary #23 in Pasadena starting in fall 2006.

Even though I'm aware that not too many people living in this condo would have kids, I guess this information is still good just in case kids somehow pop into the picture.

[2112]

I wouldnt mind seeing a whole string of residential towers along the lake, to give the Houston area a nice water front feel

[houstonfella]

Most definitely Clear Lake is primed for this and more. Houston.... expect the unexpected.

[baywatch]

Well you guys are going to get your wish. There is a new development going in Kemah. Land clearing already has begun. Several highrise right on the bay. Called Grand Bay in Kemah. Supposed to be quite a place. Would love to have more info if anyone has it.

[bachanon]

welcome to the forum baywatch.

[baywatch]

That's nice. Thank you very much. I've enjoyed reading for a while, just never chimed in.

[houstonsemipro]

[houstonsemipro]