Luminare Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 lol People won't care about that kind of negative PR. Now if you come back and say that the materials are cheap, it looks unfinished, pipes are bursting, and it was built with slave labor? Then maybe you will have some bad PR in terms of the actual building. It's not like the building is running for office or anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Rumors I am hearing is that with construction booming all over town local folks aren't wanting to touch this project. Why risk pissing off the wrong people, especially lenders, when you don't have to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Look, I'm not siding with the neighborhood on this, but at this point I think the developer should consider options for getting out of this location. Offer to "donate" the property to the locals with the sole purpose of creating a park, only if a similar size property can be purchased by the community nearby in a location the community and the developer thinks will be more appropriate. Midtown? Kirby? Museum District? Medical Center? Uptown? By creating a park the developer could save face while also still getting to build the designed building at another location.There is just too much other competition for residential high rise in Houston right now to build where sales may be harder to come by because of the high amount of negative PR.If there was ever a "point of no return" situation for a developer, this would be it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Pretty much forced to agree with huge think they have blown so much resources, that they have to build and hope to recoup some of their losses instead of taking a total loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Look, I'm not siding with the neighborhood on this, but at this point I think the developer should consider options for getting out of this location. Offer to "donate" the property to the locals with the sole purpose of creating a park, only if a similar size property can be purchased by the community nearby in a location the community and the developer thinks will be more appropriate. Midtown? Kirby? Museum District? Medical Center? Uptown? By creating a park the developer could save face while also still getting to build the designed building at another location.There is just too much other competition for residential high rise in Houston right now to build where sales may be harder to come by because of the high amount of negative PR.Out of the 4m people who live in Houston and the Billions more that live around the world --- a significant number of them with business or lifestyle arrangements that take them to houston routinely, I am quite sure that the owners of this building would be able to find about 300 folks willing to pay the rent that they charge. Negative press means zero to the Saudi or Chinese businessman who is relocating for two years to open a new office for his company. Or, for that matter, the oil exec from Boston who similarly needs a place for 36 months. Zero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 1717 BissonnetLocation: 1717 Bissonnet at AshbyDeveloper: Houston-based Buckhead Investment PartnersOriginal plan: In 2007, the developer said it would build a high-rise residential tower in the neighborhood near Rice University. Later referred to as the "Ashby high-rise," the project became poster child for Houston's land-use tensions as neighbors fought for years to stop it. In May, a judge awarded $1.2 million in damages to area residents who had sued the developer. But the judge said he could not stop Buckhead from building the project.Status: "We are working to start as soon as possible," Buckhead's Matthew Morgan said. The lawsuit is in appeal, but "that's not going to keep us from starting," he said. The developer has found a new general contractor to build the project, and it has its foundation and core and shell permits.http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Cracks-forming-in-commercial-real-estate-market-6037038.php#/0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I am all for seeing this get built! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I am all for seeing this get built!Disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What has baffled me is the almost single minded obession with building there. When area like alemeda would well such a building and is starting to become quite the collection of high raise itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Disagree.Well, we will see if it does or not. That space will be used for something high density Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeopleAreStrange Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 What a horrible location for such a massive building. I can understand why so many people are concerned about traffic. I hope there are plans for left turn lanes on Ashby and Bissonnet if this project moves forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 FWIW, they mowed the grass this past weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 FWIW, they mowed the grass this past weekend. Well that changes everything!! That's the most money soent on the site in months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I am assuming this will never be built. How can they afford to carry it all these years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 They should abandon the project and install something very permanent with "Litigation Park" etched into it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think the ultimate revenge would be to open a pawn/liquor/check cashing store on the site. I bet the neighborhood wouldn't be so NIMBY after that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 F those two developers from West U. I hope they go belly up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think the ultimate revenge would be to open a pawn/liquor/check cashing store on the site. I bet the neighborhood wouldn't be so NIMBY after that.The ultimate revenge would be as follows....1) Hold a press conference with local news announcing you are NOT building the high rise apartments 2) Publicly apologize to the good people of west u for putting them through all this 3) Let some time pass while still retaining ownership of the land 4) After sufficient time has passed for everything to be forgotten, commission sculptor David Adickes to create the biggest "F*** You" in the history of statues..... ....A giant size replica of THIS guy, built to the scale of the cartoon, overlooking those asshole nimbys homes.... 5) ????? 6) Profit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I am all for seeing this get built! 100% agree. What can we do to help get this ball rolling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The ultimate revenge would be as follows.... 4) After sufficient time has passed for everything to be forgotten, commission sculptor David Adickes to create the biggest "F*** You" in the history of statues..... ....A giant size replica of THIS guy, built to the scale of the cartoon, overlooking those asshole nimbys homes.... 3D print the sucker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talltexan83 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 100% agree. What can we do to help get this ball rolling? So it's a go? It is proceeding? Those effin residents ... we should start a fund to assist with the developer's legal fees. In return the developer can name a floor or a park bench in honor of the largest donors. They should add 30 stories for the hell of it. They should add 20 more floors to this thing just for that. Count me in! the taller the better. I just hope there's a bar included in this supposed street-level retail. This way everyone who drives by can see the bar patrons drinking and getting plastered. Cool.I'm trying this "MultiQuote" feature for the first time. Pretty cool. I wanted to test my theory that little can be done to change a HAIFer's views on a particular project. LTAWACS has been consistent.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Oh brother... I like this building. I also happen to think it should go up. I also happen to think the concerns of the local residents are somewhat misplaced or far-fetched. I also happen to be likely to not change my mind about it. Chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Spotted yesterday afternoon, snapped this morning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asubrt Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Beat me to it, there was definitely some work going on this afternoon, looked like utility work though it's unclear if it's actually related to/the start of the project or something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Beat me to it, there was definitely some work going on this afternoon, looked like utility work though it's unclear if it's actually related to/the start of the project or something else. I remember last year they were able to do the electric grid install then got shut down. This looks like it might be water utility work, so might just be another stutter step. I'm sure the first time a worker honks their horn at 6:59:55 am, it will be shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talltexan83 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've asked this in the past, but why would developers demo cash-generating properties until the construction is 100% certain to go forward? Or does that 100% assurance never really happen? This site has been an empty lot for 2 years, and if I recall, the old apartment complex here had high occupancy rates. Regent Square is another example. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoninATX Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I'm going to talk with the developer and simply say just build the d*** thing. This fight has been going on way to long. Screw these anti highrise nimbies, if you don't like it should have never moved to Houston. Edited April 16, 2015 by JoninATX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I live in Southampton. My next door neighbors are in their early 90s. They've lived in their home since 1956. Their house was originally built in 1928 and they purchased it from the original owners. Pretty sure that in 1928 and in 1956, NOBODY would have predicted a high-rise being built on Bissonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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