[largeTEXAS]

This one's breaking ground in a few months and will certainly blow the socks off of any urbanist, fashonista or foodie. Trust me.

[WesternGulf]

Not giving out any info yet eh? Name of devloper, project, anything?

[hokieone]

Is this going in where Jalapeno's currently is? It looks awesome.

[largeTEXAS]

hokieone, on Saturday, November 12th, 2005 @ 12:07am, said:

Is this going in where Jalapeno's currently is? It looks awesome.

Yes, and then some. Urban Partners (West Village in Dallas, 2nd Street in Austin) along with Gables is developing the project.

[UrbaNerd]

Hmm..looks awesome!

And, do I spot..retail? It sort of resembles that thingy in San Diego (or is it San Jose?) except..better!

[YakuzaIce]

Cool looking project.
And yeah is that retail at the bottom?

[Talbot]

Wow, looks to be a cool project. Can't wait to hear more on it.

[citykid09]

Thats really good news! I did not see that one coming.

[Montrose1100]

I'm glad developers are doing alot of projects like this in and around Montrose. To dense-ify this funky area of town.

[MidtownCoog]

You think traffic is bad now?

Oy vey.

[citykid09]

^Thats why a subway is needed.

[eelimon]

Montrose1100, on Saturday, November 12th, 2005 @ 10:35am, said:

I'm glad developers are doing alot of projects like this in and around Montrose. To dense-ify this funky area of town.

Well they like to be called Upper Kirby. Go figure!

This is awesome I hope it is successful and so other developers can follow this great example. I know there are plenty of other project out there inside the loop that have done this, but specifically speaking, I wish the developers building the Target retail center near Rice Military will redo there plans to be more like or similar to this.

[Houston Retail]

i think its more the fact that these projects just dont exist yet. Houston developers and lenders are accustomed to one type of development. Once a few of these are off the ground, (and the one posted should break ground soon), people will see that it can work.

This one is going to have two floors of retail, totaling 150,000 sf of retail. It will be a district in itself. There will also be a level of parking below.

[HtownKid]

Where is Kipling an Comeron Ave??

[UrbaNerd]

^^
Kirby@westheimer. SE corner, I think.

Now, isnt this project, like, right next to, or close to the new tower to go up on Kirby? If so, this will be a big selling point, and hopefully, lead to more neat stuff like that later on.

This post has been edited by UrbaNerd: Monday, November 14, 2005 at 10:19 AM

[hokieone]

Its close to the proposed 2727 Kirby project, which is the Paige parkes building, basically across the street. Kirby at Westheimer is going to be a really cool corner in a couple of years. I always have liked the plaza where taco Milagro is, you have the other side where River Oaks grill is, the rendering above will be on the other corner and the 2727 plaza won't be far off. Who knows, maybe it will eventually fill in all the way down to Highland Village. I guess not entirely possible since central Market takes up a huge amount of space, but still will be cool.

[VelvetJ]

Good news.

[The Great Hizzy!]

Looks very large. I wonder how this area of town will look in five years, after these projects (assuming that they're completed) are done and the completion of the University-to-Uptown rail line is realized?

Will these lead to an even greater transformation of the area? Will it spread west toward Greenway Plaza?

[Gary]

The Great Hizzy!, on Monday, November 14th, 2005 @ 3:27pm, said:

Looks very large. I wonder how this area of town will look in five years, after these projects (assuming that they're completed) are done and the completion of the University-to-Uptown rail line is realized?

Will these lead to an even greater transformation of the area? Will it spread west toward Greenway Plaza?

"Will it spread west torward Greenway Plaza".

This is a great point. I've always wondered why this area seemed, well a little dead. It seems to me that it would be ripe for residential developement considering it's close proximity to pretty much everything.

I believe I did read (on haif) that there was a large residential project in the area. I think it was in an existing commercial building.

This post has been edited by Gary: Monday, November 14, 2005 at 4:40 PM

[The Great Hizzy!]

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believe I did read (on haif) that there was a large residential project in the area. I think it was in an existing commercial building.

There are a couple, in fact. See threads in the Galleria/West Houston folder that speak to them specifically. There's a redo of an existing governmental building that could be interesting. Also, a residential development near the Edward's Cinema and the Mercedes-Benz dealership is supposed to go up on the empty lot next to Lakewood Church. The latter is pretty speculative at this point, though.

[eelimon]

The Great Hizzy!, on Monday, November 14th, 2005 @ 3:44pm, said:

Also, a residential development near the Edward's Cinema and the Mercedes-Benz dealership is supposed to go up on the empty lot next to Lakewood Church. The latter is pretty speculative at this point, though.

No, that is just a strip mall, with a gas station and several comic book stores for the crowd at the movie theater. And maybe a mommy and me day camp.

[bkjones98]

So, is this complex going to be across the street from the Kirby Condos? I thought that they were also at Kirby and Westheimer.

I am guessing one of these buildings is replacing the Jalapenos restaurant and the Shell at the corner. What other corner is getting leveled?

[citykid09]

If you guys would like to see what the location where Jalapeno's Restaurant is looks like go to this website: http://maps.a9.com/ Then click on Houston, and finally put in this address in the location box: 2702 Kirby Dr, Houston, TX

You can use this site to look at a lot of streets in many major cites across the USA.

[Subdude]

bkjones98, on Monday, November 14th, 2005 @ 4:53pm, said:

So, is this complex going to be across the street from the Kirby Condos? I thought that they were also at Kirby and Westheimer.

I am guessing one of these buildings is replacing the Jalapenos restaurant and the Shell at the corner. What other corner is getting leveled?

I'm thinking this is the lot for the old tennis center, a little south of Westheimer, and north of Alabama.

[bkjones98]

citykid09, on Monday, November 14th, 2005 @ 5:28pm, said:

If you guys would like to see what the location where Jalapeno's Restaurant is looks like go to this website: http://maps.a9.com/ Then click on Houston, and finally put in this address in the location box: 2702 Kirby Dr, Houston, TX

You can use this site to look at a lot of streets in many major cites across the USA.

Whoa, being able to look at pictures of the intersection is incredible.

[citykid09]

Click below to see where this development will be:
http://images-yp.ama...oJYE9BiYHzsGu0=

http://images-yp.ama...oJYE9BiYHzsGu0=

This post has been edited by citykid09: Monday, November 14, 2005 at 7:36 PM

[houston-development]

hbj article on the deal here

[LTAWACS]

nice

[UrbaNerd]

LTAWACS, on Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 @ 10:51pm, said:

nice

But it isn't in downtown!

Just kidding!

[kjb434]

I used to live right by there in the OakLane apartments. They were converted to condos. For the price of one of their apartment condos I bought a patio home by TC Jester and I-10 with more room.

I'm glad to see this area finally moving. I remember when speculation was beginning about building this on the site of the tennis center.

[eelimon]

kjb434, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 @ 12:24pm, said:

I used to live right by there in the OakLane apartments. They were converted to condos. For the price of one of their apartment condos I bought a patio home by TC Jester and I-10 with more room.

I'm glad to see this area finally moving. I remember when speculation was beginning about building this on the site of the tennis center.

How long ago was that?

[kjb434]

Just about a year ago.

[houston-development]

eelimon, on Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 @ 12:27pm, said:

How long ago was that?

here

[TxDave]

Does anyone have any pics of this area? It would be cool to see before and after images.

[gwilson]

In essence it will be a 2400 McCue-esque residential with a Post-Midtown first/second floor? That is awesome.

I'd love to develop something like this, but wouldn't even know where to begin to raise the money for one. The land cost alone is probably 20 million-ish.

[Houston Retail]

the land for this project is actually on a 75 year ground lease. probaly valued around $65-$70 a foot. The costs are prohibitive, but the players in this arena do know how to do a project right. Its exciting to see how many quality developments are in the works for houston.

[gwilson]

danax, on Saturday, November 19th, 2005 @ 6:54pm, said:

That expensive? If so, this area of the Monopoly board is probably becoming off-limits to anything but this level of development from here on out. With land so high, who could afford to build a 1-story strip center? If this is successful, I would expect more of the same near Richmond, especially if the rail runs there. Then again, there might be a limited supply of buyers at this price level so similar projects might be sparse.

It was just a guess on the price. Considering a large lot in Sharpstown is at the 10mm mark, I'd imagine it would be a bit pricier at Kirby & Westy.

Houston Retail, on Sunday, November 20th, 2005 @ 12:16am, said:

the land for this project is actually on a 75 year ground lease. probaly valued around $65-$70 a foot. The costs are prohibitive, but the players in this arena do know how to do a project right. Its exciting to see how many quality developments are in the works for houston.

I assume this is a rental building then?

[houston-development]

Houston Retail, on Sunday, November 20th, 2005 @ 12:16am, said:

the land for this project is actually on a 75 year ground lease. probaly valued around $65-$70 a foot. The costs are prohibitive, but the players in this arena do know how to do a project right. Its exciting to see how many quality developments are in the works for houston.

so they didnt purchase any of the land? i assumed they would have purchased the hanover dirt for a high-rise site to justify some of the cost.

if its all leased, that sure is some pricy dirt... hanover could have taken down their site for just north of $70

[RedScare]

Quote from the HBJ article.

"Gables purchased two acres and executed a long-term ground lease for another four acres on the west side of Kirby between Kipling and Westheimer."

[Subdude]

gwilson, on Sunday, November 20th, 2005 @ 2:28am, said:

I assume this is a rental building then?

Yes, according to the HBJ article, it is apartments, not condos.

[Montrose1100]

Subdude, on Monday, November 21st, 2005 @ 11:15am, said:

Yes, according to the HBJ article, it is apartments, not condos.

Well I'm sure they'll do ok on this type of project. But I'm against leasing on High-rise Buildings in Houston. They never work...

This post has been edited by Montrose1100: Monday, November 21, 2005 at 3:45 PM

[eelimon]

Montrose1100, on Monday, November 21st, 2005 @ 2:44pm, said:

Well I'm sure they'll do ok on this type of project. But I'm against leasing on High-rise Buildings in Houston. They never work...

Yes, they do if they are managed well. That is a complete generalization I have to say.

In order for the city to achieve density it need to have a great mix of many things, and rental properties are in need too. You can't have one homogeneousness type of mold to build a city.

It is like a bouquet of flowers. Yes one flower alone is beautiful, but many forming a bouquet is diversely beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. Additionally you may like some of the flowers. Others may like another flower better then the one you like. I well I like the whole bouquet.

Ahhh! it is nice to receive flowers he-he I Just got some delivered from my-other-half

[Montrose1100]

eelimon, on Monday, November 21st, 2005 @ 4:00pm, said:

Yes, they do if they are managed well. That is a complete generalization I have to say.

In order for the city to achieve density it need to have a great mix of many things, and rental properties are in need too. You can't have one homogeneousness type of mold to build a city.

It is like a bouquet of flowers. Yes one flower alone is beautiful, but many forming a bouquet is diversely beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. Additionally you may like some of the flowers. Others may like another flower better then the one you like. I well I like the whole bouquet.

Ahhh! it is nice to receive flowers he-he I Just got some delivered from my-other-half

I'm just talking about alot of recent projects that have been cancelled or "on hold" because they were leasing.

[KinkaidAlum]

What major lease projects have been cancelled lately?

The only one I can think of is Ballpark Place.

Lofts on Post Oak, 1200 Post Oak, 3333 Allen Parkway, Dominion Post Oak, Museum Tower, Sabine Street, Lofts at the Ballpark, Camden Midtown, Post Lofts at Midtown Square, Alta Lofts, Ventanna, Calais at Cortland Square, 3000 Sage, Seven Riverway, ZOM Allen Parkway, Broadstone, Augusta, Jackson Hill Apts, several projects in "Memorial Heights" and the Med Center have all gone up recently.

Seems to me that it has been the for-sale hi-rises that have been cancelled, especially the ultra high end ones like Redstone, original Dominion, Monaco, and Orion not to mention the other Mercer and Shamrock.

[eelimon]

KinkaidAlum, on Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005 @ 12:35am, said:

What major lease projects have been cancelled lately?

The only one I can think of is Ballpark Place.

Lofts on Post Oak, 1200 Post Oak, 3333 Allen Parkway, Dominion Post Oak, Museum Tower, Sabine Street, Lofts at the Ballpark, Camden Midtown, Post Lofts at Midtown Square, Alta Lofts, Ventanna, Calais at Cortland Square, 3000 Sage, Seven Riverway, ZOM Allen Parkway, Broadstone, Augusta, Jackson Hill Apts, several projects in "Memorial Heights" and the Med Center have all gone up recently.

Seems to me that it has been the for-sale hi-rises that have been cancelled, especially the ultra high end ones like Redstone, original Dominion, Monaco, and Orion not to mention the other Mercer and Shamrock.

Are all of the above high-rise apartment, or are some mid-rise?

[YakuzaIce]

eelimon, on Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005 @ 10:39am, said:

Are all of the above high-rise apartment, or are some mid-rise?

The lease or the condo?

Well the first line of the lease ones are mostly high rises, most of the rest are mid rises.