swtsig Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I alluded to this in the 2929 Wesleyan thread but now that bisnow referenced it this morning I figured it was ok to talk about. PM is redeveloping the solvay site by tearing down the existing bldg and replacing it w a hotel/condo and building a 20 story office next door. I can't confirm much re the hotel but it sounds like the office is moving forward and would assume the hotel is as well. Don't expect anything earth shattering architecturally speaking. Should be a nice addition regardless. There are a few more projects proposed in the immediate area as well, some further along than others, but 3333 sounds like the closest thing to a guarantee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 This is good news, although I will be sad to see those old oak trees on the Solvay site get torn down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I really think Richmond avenue between Buffalo Speedway and Kirby is prime for re-development. There are some old mid-rise offices and a large vacant lot both along Richmond and the 59 access road. Would be great to see some high rise residential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Great to see some new development in that area. That's a pretty large lot especially with them tearing down the existing 8 story building. Seems like they could fit more then two buildings on the site unless the two buildings will have large footprints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Nice. It was on the commission planning agenda a few weeks ago but I had no idea what they had planned. Now you've really got me wondering about your "80 story building instead of two 40 story towers" in some other thread. Hint or pure curiosity? Edited November 21, 2012 by lockmat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 New 20-story hotel and apartment tower planned for the corner of Buffalo Speedway and Richmond! http://swamplot.com/tall-hotel-and-company-will-park-by-greenway-plaza/2012-11-21/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 There are some nice trees on this lot. I hope they are able to save some of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff8201 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This one gives me mixed feelings...On one hand you have a new 20 story property... would be nicer if it were 30 stories... if you're going to build it make it stand out. Hopefully it will in the architecture.But then on the other... this is a nice little green space that would be lost. What is the driving factor to warrent the need for another hotel in this area? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Yeah that grove is amazing. It's a large site though, plenty of room to build the hotel and keep the trees. Not that I expect that, but it's certainly possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is that even a public green space? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 On one hand you have a new 20 story property... would be nicer if it were 30 stories... if you're going to build it make it stand out. Hopefully it will in the architecture.I certainly agree that it would be cool to see 30 stories. Hell, let's make it 80 stories. That would be pretty awesome too. But based on cost, demand, location, etc. the developers of this hotel determined that 20 stories on this green space would be best for them in this market. And since they are probably targeting functionality, it will probably be an average looking hotel. Not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic. I mean, hopefully I'm wrong on the architecture front but all the construction and proposals that we've seen have simply been for functionality purposes in a growing Houston market with impressive architecture being achieved only if the company has the money. The only exception I can think of at the moment is the proposed convention hotel near Discovery Green. So while it would be cool to see this thing be iconic or something, I think it will likely be just an average building. Either way, it's still great to see more projects in the Houston area nonetheless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah that grove is amazing. It's a large site though, plenty of room to build the hotel and keep the trees. Not that I expect that, but it's certainly possible.I agree it is a large site I don't see the 20 story hotel and the office building taking up that entire site especially since they plan on tearing down the 8 story building on the site. So maybe they will leave the green space or atleast some of the trees. Two buildings won't take up that large of a lot unless thy have very large footprints which I doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I agree it is a large site I don't see the 20 story hotel and the office building taking up that entire site especially since they plan on tearing down the 8 story building on the site. So maybe they will leave the green space or atleast some of the trees. Two buildings won't take up that large of a lot unless thy have very large footprints which I doubt.It's only one building going up. It's a hotel/apartment building---mix use if you will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It's only one building going up. It's a hotel/apartment building---mix use if you will. No if you look at the post on Swamplot as well as the original article it says that plans for the site also include 400,000 sq ft of office space. Also a thread was already started for this topic on HAIF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineView Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 This is 100% office-based occupancy. The Renaissance pulls in some extra business with the church, Rice, and Qantas flight attendants (yum) but realistically this will be filled with business use. The site today is not used as a public space, and the corner, in general, could use some love. As someone who goes through there every day, I support this. My only complaint (if you could call it one) is that this isn't happening on the NORTH side of Richmond, which is a site waiting for a bulldozer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 This is 100% office-based occupancy. The Renaissance pulls in some extra business with the church, Rice, and Qantas flight attendants (yum) but realistically this will be filled with business use. The site today is not used as a public space, and the corner, in general, could use some love. As someone who goes through there every day, I support this. My only complaint (if you could call it one) is that this isn't happening on the NORTH side of Richmond, which is a site waiting for a bulldozer.I agree that huge parking lot in front of that building bothers me every time I pass by it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 This is 100% office-based occupancy. The Renaissance pulls in some extra business with the church, Rice, and Qantas flight attendants (yum) but realistically this will be filled with business use. The site today is not used as a public space, and the corner, in general, could use some love. As someone who goes through there every day, I support this. My only complaint (if you could call it one) is that this isn't happening on the NORTH side of Richmond, which is a site waiting for a bulldozer.There are redevelopment plans for the NWC of Richmond and buffalo speedway although I heard they recently stalled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Oh wow I hate to hear that the redevelopment plans stalled. Any idea why they stalled ? It's good to hear that the site is on the radar for redevelopment though. Hopefully the plans will move forward soon. Do you happen to have any details about the redevelopment ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 no details other than it is/was planned mixed-use. another developer has a multi-phase office-heavy mixed-use (how's that for hyphen usage!) development planned further east on richmond as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 no details other than it is/was planned mixed-use. another developer has a multi-phase office-heavy mixed-use (how's that for hyphen usage!) development planned further east on richmond as well.Does "office-heavy" mean a new tower? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Does "office-heavy" mean a new tower?Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 mods, this thread should probably be combined w the 3333 Richmond thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 no details other than it is/was planned mixed-use. another developer has a multi-phase office-heavy mixed-use (how's that for hyphen usage!) development planned further east on richmond as well.Its somewhat historically significant architecture. Some will be upset if it is torn down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGeneral Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yes.Any details you can provide on height of the office tower? Are we talking 10 floors, 20 floors, 30 floors? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 And the location ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 18 stories, approx. 400K sf with ground level retail, looks remarkably similar to BBVA on post oak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Is anybody a subscriber? There's a story on this development in the Chron...http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Inner-Loop-site-to-be-redeveloped-4071822.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well a lot of people will be happy that the oaks are staying on the site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I know I'm happy about the Oaks. Can anyone grab the rendering from Chron? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 mods, this thread should probably be combined w the 3333 Richmond thread.Done.ThanksSub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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