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Posted Friday, July 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

http://swamplot.com/...07-11/#comments

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http://houston.bizjo.../14/story2.html

anybody with an HBJ subscription care to give us the run down?

Lambert (of tha San Jose Hotel in Austin) was also quoted as being in the conceptual stage on another boutique hotel next to the Continental Club in midtown, right off the red line (part of the adjacent property that the CC purchased awhile back).... boutique hotels on washington and on the red line in midtown would be very big deals, imo.

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Posted Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 3:11 PM

As for the San Jose, the HBJ article states the following;

1) Will be a new build compared to a rehab like her Austin project
2) Will "go vertical" because of space limitations but no hint as to # of floors
3) Will be located on Lower Westheimer
4) Pretty much a done deal but not ready to announce

As for the Washington Ave boutique hotel

1) Some of the players involved have a tie to the Lancaster downtown
2) very early in planning stages so no real news
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Posted Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM

View PostKinkaidAlum, on Saturday, July 12th, 2008 @ 3:11pm, said:

As for the San Jose, the HBJ article states the following;

1) Will be a new build compared to a rehab like her Austin project
2) Will "go vertical" because of space limitations but no hint as to # of floors
3) Will be located on Lower Westheimer
4) Pretty much a done deal but not ready to announce

As for the Washington Ave boutique hotel

1) Some of the players involved have a tie to the Lancaster downtown
2) very early in planning stages so no real news


I wonder where their Westheimer parcel is. There is a place on the north side of Westheimer between Dunlavy and Mandell that had piers put in for a condo builidng several years back that would be a great location. Or maybe they could put it between Mary's and Burger King.
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Posted Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 5:24 PM

View PostKinkaidAlum, on Saturday, July 12th, 2008 @ 3:11pm, said:

As for the Washington Ave boutique hotel

1) Some of the players involved have a tie to the Lancaster downtown
2) very early in planning stages so no real news


Seemed like that guy was only a consultant, not really a player. The developer wasn't specified.
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 9:40 AM

View Postcapnmcbarnacle, on Saturday, July 12th, 2008 @ 3:57pm, said:

I wonder where their Westheimer parcel is. There is a place on the north side of Westheimer between Dunlavy and Mandell that had piers put in for a condo builidng several years back that would be a great location. Or maybe they could put it between Mary's and Burger King.


http://www.bunkhousemgmt.com/

Click Projects, then 1634 Westheimer.
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 10:21 AM

here is 1634 Westheimer. Is it that north/south parcel?
http://maps.google.c...&...mp;t=h&z=18

live.com has a better view:
http://maps.live.com...c...S&FORM=BYRE

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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 10:27 AM

View Postcapnmcbarnacle, on Saturday, July 12th, 2008 @ 3:57pm, said:

I wonder where their Westheimer parcel is. There is a place on the north side of Westheimer between Dunlavy and Mandell that had piers put in for a condo builidng several years back that would be a great location. Or maybe they could put it between Mary's and Burger King.



Is this what you were talking about?
http://www.mainstree...ewestheimer.htm
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 11:10 AM

That is an excellent location. It's been vacant for so damn long! Mark's, Hugo's, Buffalo Exchange, EJ's, and more will be neighbors. As a one-time Cherryhurst resident, I would have loved to have had this close by to put up guests since I only had a 2 bedroom place.
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM

View Postlockmat, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 10:27am, said:

Is this what you were talking about?
http://www.mainstree...ewestheimer.htm


That was the one that was supposed to go there years ago. I've been pining for someone to put something cool there. If they build there, I think they are golden. I read that they may have a restaurant, but most boutique hotels usually don't have much. The beauty of that kind of place in the neighborhood is that they don't need major bars and restaurants in the Hotel becasue you can leave your hotel and turn right half a block and eat at Mark's or Agora or Brazil, or you can go left half a block and eat at Hugo's or DaMarco. Or you can a few more blocks and go to dozens of other restaurants and bars. I hate to get to giddy, but to have a hotel in Montrose would be great. Easy access to the museums (easy walk to Menil), Montrose shops, West Gray, Regent Square, West Ave...It's about time someone did this. I think there is a market for an alternative to downtown, Galleria, and the Dallas cheese that is ZaZa.

I really, really hope this works.

Now that I think of it, there was a for sale sign there for the longest time, and it vanished several months ago...

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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM

View Postcapnmcbarnacle, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 11:24am, said:

That was the one that was supposed to go there years ago. I've been pining for someone to put something cool there. That is 1634 Westheimer on the Bunkhouse site. If they build there, I think they are golden. I read that they may have a restaurant, but most boutique hotels usually don't have much. The beauty of that kind of place in the neighborhood is that they don't need major bars and restaurants in the Hotel becasue you can leave your hotel and turn right half a block and eat at Mark's or Agora or Brazil, or you can go left half a block and eat at Hugo's or DaMarco. Or you can a few more blocks and go to dozens of other restaurants and bars. I hate to get to giddy, but to have a hotel in Montrose would be great. Easy access to the museums (easy walk to Menil), Montrose shops, West Gray, Regent Square, West Ave...It's about time someone did this. I think there is a market for an alternative to downtown, Galleria, and the Dallas cheese that is ZaZa.

I really, really hope this works.



I think you may have accidently skipped over the posts above.

The site map says it will have a restaurant.
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 2:39 PM

View Postlockmat, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 11:26am, said:

I think you may have accidently skipped over the posts above.

The site map says it will have a restaurant.


I did see that, but I think regardless they are in a great spot. I've stayed at the San Jose in Austin and the great thing about it is that despite not having a restaurant and bar (or anything major anyway) it is situated in a place where you can just leave the hotel to go eat and drink without it being a hassle. They can attract guests that normally demand those amenities wihout having them in the hotel but very close by. I was thinking about Omni, Four Seasons, etc., and they always have a great restaurant designed to make people stay in the hotel and spend their money there. And unless you are staying in NY or San Fran, those hotels usually aren't amenable to just walking 5 minutes down the street to eat. The nice thing about putting a small hotel here is that they can get guests that normally expect a bar and restaurant in the hotel without really needing to have one in the lobby. There are plenty of options a block or two away. I'm all for a restaurant in the hotel, but the hotel has the luxury of having Paulies, Brasil, Marks, Hugos, etc., as the defacto restaurants for their guests.

I live close by and I am really psyched that my guests might have a place to stay in the neighborhood. My mom used to stay at the Warwick when she vistited and she wasn't really down with the ZaZa because the bar didn't have Drambuie. Maybe she can stay here and drink at Poison Girl.

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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 2:52 PM

View PostKinkaidAlum, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 11:10am, said:

It's been vacant for so damn long!


you can 99.9% blame these guys (<- some great reading material) for the project failing.

really was a shame. current owner was 75% presold, poured the piliars, ready to start hard construction, and then MM went *poof*. after 2+ years, finally found a new lender but all the presales backed out due to being spooked, which was understandable, and he could never recapture the velocity.

its a great site and a shame it took this long to develop.
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 3:17 PM

View Posthouston-development, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 2:52pm, said:

you can 99.9% blame these guys (<- some great reading material) for the project failing.

really was a shame. current owner was 75% presold, poured the piliars, ready to start hard construction, and then MM went *poof*. after 2+ years, finally found a new lender but all the presales backed out due to being spooked, which was understandable, and he could never recapture the velocity.

its a great site and a shame it took this long to develop.



MM?
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Posted Monday, July 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM

View PostJWW, on Monday, July 14th, 2008 @ 3:17pm, said:

MM?


money mortgage.

read the link and see all of the gory (albeit one-sided, biased, and jaded) details.

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