North of Arnes (View original topic)



tanith27

Posted Monday, August 13, 2007 at 9:26 PM

The Woodland Heights forum is talking about some buildings north of Arnes on Studemont being fenced off with heavy equipment seemingly prepping for some (demo?) work. Any nuggets of wisdom from haifers on what could be going on here, if anything?

Tiko

Posted Tuesday, August 14, 2007 at 9:56 AM

View Posttanith27, on Monday, August 13th, 2007 @ 9:26pm, said:

The Woodland Heights forum is talking about some buildings north of Arnes on Studemont being fenced off with heavy equipment seemingly prepping for some (demo?) work. Any nuggets of wisdom from haifers on what could be going on here, if anything?


Aren't they planning on continuing the frontage road past Studemont? Maybe it's related to that.

tx5050

Posted Tuesday, August 14, 2007 at 1:36 PM

View PostTiko, on Tuesday, August 14th, 2007 @ 9:56am, said:

Aren't they planning on continuing the frontage road past Studemont? Maybe it's related to that.



No it's well back from where the frontage road will be - closer to Arnie's. It's all fenced in with a demolition company sign hanging on the gate. A while back there was a post on this board somewhere about this parcel being for sale. There are 2 other properties between this one and I-10 - CBS Outdoor and Johnson Controls.

sevfiv

Posted Tuesday, August 14, 2007 at 2:29 PM

the warehouses north of Arnes and south of I-10 (on the east side on studemont) are owned by "Lui Investments Studemont, LP" / "Lui Houston Studemont, LP"

at first i thought it was a misspelling of "Liu" but the Comptroller of Public Accounts lists this:

LUI HOUSTON STUDEMONT GP L L C (and Lui Houston Studemont II)
5 E GREENWAY PLZ STE 1300
HOUSTON, TX 77046-0503

directed by Daniel R. Dubrowski, Glenn Lowenstein, and Thomas G. Bacon

Norhill Dennis

Posted Tuesday, August 21, 2007 at 11:05 PM

I wonder if it's Frank Liu with Lovett Homes?

bachanon

Posted Tuesday, August 21, 2007 at 11:10 PM

View PostNorhill Dennis, on Tuesday, August 21st, 2007 @ 11:05pm, said:

I wonder if it's Frank Liu with Lovett Homes?


the same thought occurred to me.

sevfiv

Posted Tuesday, August 21, 2007 at 11:15 PM

View Postsevfiv, on Tuesday, August 14th, 2007 @ 2:29pm, said:

at first i thought it was a misspelling of "Liu" but the Comptroller of Public Accounts lists this:

LUI HOUSTON STUDEMONT GP L L C (and Lui Houston Studemont II)
5 E GREENWAY PLZ STE 1300
HOUSTON, TX 77046-0503

directed by Daniel R. Dubrowski, Glenn Lowenstein, and Thomas G. Bacon

View PostNorhill Dennis, on Tuesday, August 21st, 2007 @ 11:05pm, said:

I wonder if it's Frank Liu with Lovett Homes?

View Postbachanon, on Tuesday, August 21st, 2007 @ 11:10pm, said:

the same thought occurred to me.


yep - my first thought, but the Lui spelling was consistent everywhere i saw it. and no mention of Frank or his office address
but who knows...

tanith27

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Just got back from a halloween trip to Arnes and heard a big crash as I was walking to my car. Looked over towards the parking lot and saw a big earth mover just started to wipe out another building. If they keep this up, I'll be able to see Target from Studemont before too much longer...

Serrano

Posted Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 8:02 AM

I go to chase bank all the time and have noticed all the demolition there. It is a huge empty flat land now and it looks that they are clearing more buildings towards the back of it. Somebody should know something. Any Info????????

heights_yankee

Posted Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 4:11 PM

just wanted to bump this up now that a lot of the buildings are actually down (and you can see the target center from studewood!).

any new info on what will be going up where those came down?

tmariar

Posted Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 7:32 PM


Ross

Posted Friday, December 28, 2007 at 12:03 AM

These folks spent a lot of money for a 1.4 acre plot. If they plan a residential development, it will have to be apartments to make it worthwhile.

I was interested to see further down in the study the number of residential water wells in River Oaks and surrounding areas. Must be for watering those giant yards there.

Lindsey

Posted Monday, January 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM

The developer is Lionstone Group (www.lionstonegroup.com). They focus on developing mixed-use properties in urban areas. They have a good track record. The following is a link to an article in the Houston Business Journal about the group.

HBJ Article about Lionstone Group

HCAD lists entities controlled by Lionstone (LIU Houston Studemont, LIU Investments Studemont) as the owner of the following 4 tracts:

  • 1500 Studemont
  • 1400 Studemont
  • 1200 Givens
  • 1312 Studemont
The HBJ identified Jeff Lindenberger with McDade, Smith, Gould, Johnston, Mason + Company as the broker who helped them assemble the properties.

The MSD applies only to 1200 Givens.

According to the Harris County Clerk's office Lionsgate granted a Warranty Deed to Verde Real Estate Investment Group and Verde Student Apartments in May 2007. September 2007, the Planning Commission approved an application to replat a 7.2 acre tract of land submitted by Verde Studemont Apartments (I have requested a copy of the application). My guess is the tract does not include the property at 1200 Givens, which is the subject of the MSD application.

I think there is a missing .3 acre tract of land. According to the HBJ, Lionsgate owned an 8.6 acre tract of land along Studemont. The 4 tracts above total 8.25 acres. The total of the three Studemont tracts is 6.9 acres, .3 acres less than the replat application.

It looks to me like this will be a fairly large multi-unit residential property.

Lindsey

heights_yankee

Posted Monday, January 7, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Wow! Thanks, Lindsay, and welcome to HAIF.

houstonray

Posted Monday, January 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM

<yawn> More apartments. Oh joy. Anyone have a clue where, after they use up most all the available land around here building apts, condos and other assorted high density residential areas, everyone that buys/leases them is going to shop? It just seems that they keep bringing in more residents, which is fine, but there is not much new in the way of retail.

And yes, thanks for that detailed info! Welcome!! ;)

heights_yankee

Posted Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM

well, unfortunately, residents support commerce; commerce doesn't support residents [this is something i learned when my early cities refused to thrive on SimCity :closedeyes: ]. when developers look at adding retail or other commercial sites to an area, isn't one of the things they look at is density? based on that, and the fact that they are not being built in the Heights, i actually welcome this development. perhaps after the 1st buildings go up, we'll get some mixed use? then it will be the best of both worlds (hands over ears going lalalalalala when my husband talks about the traffic in studewood)

houstonray

Posted Friday, January 11, 2008 at 3:58 PM

I guess I can that point. But wouldn't that be more true in suburban areas where land is plentiful and available? It just seems to me that they come up with great pieces of lands, which are few and far between inside the loop anyway), and then up pop apartments and townhomes galore. I've seen a ton of apts and the like be built all over the place, up and down Washington, Studemont, I-10 feeder, and elsewhere, over the last few years, and the only new retail we've gotten is Target and a handful of of other stores.

At what point does it reach critical mass and then people stop moving in because they don't have the stores they want conveniently located? I've always figured people are creatures of habit and the majority would rather not drive all over the place to go grocery shopping or clothes shopping or whatever. Thankfully I've never been one of those. I don't mind driving to the good places. I get the best of both worlds, I work in the burbs, surrounded by retail galore (perhaps why I'm spoiled?) and then get to be one of the fortunate ones who lives in the Heights and gets that great old town feel.

Hmmmm....to quote Emily Litella, "nevermind"... :-)